머스크, 트윗으로 Stalink가 우크라이나 관련 비용으로 달에 2천만 달러를 '태우고' 있으며 평균 통신량의 100배 이상을 사용하는 상황을 무한정 방치할 수는 없다고 주장. https://t.co/96e2m96Zan
— Paranal (@nagato708) October 14, 2022
The world's richest man says he's run out of money to pay for critical satellite services to Ukraine. What a charlatan. https://t.co/L0Cbur3JsU
— Ketan Joshi (@KetanJ0) October 14, 2022
イーロン・マスクもStarlinkも慈善事業じゃないから残当みたいな論調ばかりが日本語で流れてきてすげー違和感あったんだが、CNNの日本語記事自体から「いや米国かなり払っとるで」「ほーん、で、突然作戦区域で通信止めたの無関係?」が略されてるとは思わなんだよhttps://t.co/xkc95vTcwX
— 星崎連維@SSF05-A51 (@rennstars) October 14, 2022
Exclusive: Musk's SpaceX says it can no longer pay for critical satellite services in Ukraine, asks Pentagon to pick up the tab | CNN Politics https://t.co/sLi3qrCAAJ
— 尻P(野尻抱介) (@nojiri_h) October 14, 2022
#BOYCOTTTESLA #ElonMuskIsARussianAsset #ElonMusk is a douche with an ego the size of the universe and psychopath! So much for seeking actual peace! It was all a game for him to get the attention he so desperately needs it. Ugh! What an UGLY human being!https://t.co/hbSNfylvUf
— GlobalActivist76 🇺🇦🇷🇴🇲🇩🇪🇺🇺🇸 (@GActivist76) October 14, 2022
CNNの記事。
— データをいろいろ見てみる (@shioshio38) October 14, 2022
スペースXはスターリンクの金銭的負担が重いので、米国防総省に払ってと言っているというもの。https://t.co/5ubOR0gFIG
記事中、スターリンクが如何に有用か繰り返し触れられている。
興味深いのは、通信の提供者が戦争に大きな影響を与えている点だ。
Exclusive: Elon Musk's SpaceX says it can no longer pay for critical Starlink satellite services in Ukraine, he's asking the Pentagon (US Tax Payers) to pay for it https://t.co/T4PqNcqgNs
— StarBoySAR 🇭🇰 🇨🇳 (@StarboySAR) October 14, 2022
I mean, why can't they? The #Starlink dishes are on the ground in the Ukraine🇺🇦, and data flowing over the link doesn't *really* cost them anything. The monthly fees we pay for data are just the providers amortising the cost of their capital investment. https://t.co/Uv00x4DLmT
— Alasdair Allan (@aallan) October 14, 2022
1/ As so often with Elon Musk, what could be a simple and justifiable business decision becomes a much bigger deal than it should be strictly on the merits, because his pronouncements on twitter raised questions about his motivations and timing. https://t.co/Wa0M376w7g
— Dmitry Grozoubinski (@DmitryOpines) October 14, 2022
It's going to be really suspicious if @elonmusk pays for Twitter in rubles! https://t.co/UeXqVQ58iV
— David Axelrod (@davidaxelrod) October 14, 2022
Starlink was providing its services for free to Ukraine. That’s what it means when he says that SpaceX cannot continue to fund this gift at a loss indefinitely https://t.co/DN556JDXpr
— Michael Brendan Dougherty (@michaelbd) October 14, 2022
Where are you getting the $500 million number from? Musk himself said it was $80 million. https://t.co/yTvBUOHME8
— Elías Thorsson (@Eliasthorsson) October 14, 2022
Elon Musk said his rocket company SpaceX cannot indefinitely fund its Starlink internet service in Ukraine, which has helped the country's civilians and military stay online during the war with Russia. Read more here: https://t.co/Y9vONpiuOq pic.twitter.com/ItLMvwpXsJ
— Reuters Business (@ReutersBiz) October 14, 2022
So @elonmusk is whining about losing a lot of money on Starlinks for Ukraine.
— Melaniya Podolyak (@MelaniePodolyak) October 14, 2022
Meanwhile, may I present to you snippets of my bank statements.
Thousands of Ukrainians, paying his company monthly.
So the question is: did you really lose more money than you earned? pic.twitter.com/w8OX2EBiqf
Musk appears to confirm he is cutting off Starlink service to Ukraine over a Twitter tiff. pic.twitter.com/IH6iwfQZ6B
— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec) October 14, 2022
👀 https://t.co/BKGcXqPwIU pic.twitter.com/5KasBFMUIt
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) October 14, 2022
To be clear, 85% of the 20,000+ Starlink kits sent to Ukraine were paid for by US and other governments, and they also paid for 30% of the cost of delivering the service to them. Elon Musk is now demanding they pay much more for him to keep it active. https://t.co/s0EyqsWLcC
— Paris Marx (@parismarx) October 14, 2022
This boy loves govt money https://t.co/8smH3ahvmN
— David Griscom (@DavidGriscom) October 14, 2022
This is illustrative as to how the military industrial complex grift works: Starlink wants to bill the US $550MM for providing service through 2023. This eclipses their annual revenue from all their users on the planet. https://t.co/5iiJb1Dycx
— koush (@koush) October 14, 2022
It'd be very easy for SpaceX to be taking a massive loss on providing service to Ukraine if they've decided to purchase insurance against the risk that Russia attacks Starlink.
— Peter Todd (@peterktodd) October 14, 2022
Losing the entire system for years (until debris finally deorbits) is totally conceivable. https://t.co/loSGB26MHX
So he suggests a “peace plan”
— Luke Zaleski (@ZaleskiLuke) October 14, 2022
Which is basically give Putin everything and surrender. And Ukraine tells him to fuck off and he cuts then off and says “we’re” just following recommendation? https://t.co/cr6Jjseihg
I never understood why did Musk have to invent horrible peace plans, spread bullshit and anger traumatized Ukrainians instead just saying: hey, guys, just business. I am done paying. https://t.co/e1jRCdh7cO
— Nika Melkozerova (@NikaMelkozerova) October 14, 2022
The cost is less than Musk makes in a day. https://t.co/luuNdt4i9M
— Matt Duss (@mattduss) October 13, 2022
85% of Starlink terminals in Ukraine were already all or partially funded by governments https://t.co/mItKZvSlEn
— Matt Novak (@paleofuture) October 14, 2022
SpaceX is not asking to recoup past expenses, but also cannot fund the existing system indefinitely *and* send several thousand more terminals that have data usage up to 100X greater than typical households. This is unreasonable.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 14, 2022
US in talks with Elon Musk’s Starlink over Ukraine internet access https://t.co/qSm22XJxMU
— FT Technology News (@fttechnews) October 14, 2022
Let's be honest. Like it or not, @elonmusk helped us survive the most critical moments of war. Business has the right to its own strategies. 🇺🇦 will find a solution to keep #Starlink working. We expect that the company will provide stable connection till the end of negotiations.
— Михайло Подоляк (@Podolyak_M) October 14, 2022
If there was ever proof that @elonmusk is playing games this is it. I’m not sure someone like this can be trusted to any longer do business with our government. https://t.co/QV1iifKJ4K
— Adam Kinzinger #fella (@AdamKinzinger) October 14, 2022
One Ukrainian commander said Friday that “fighting without Starlink service at the front line is like fighting without a gun” https://t.co/zyR1zpXfkY
— Dmitri Alperovitch (@DAlperovitch) October 14, 2022
4. I have bought over 50 StarLinks, with official prices right from the website in EU countries - Poland, CZ, Germany - like 400-500 bucks each, then enable portability for extra IIRC 50$, then payed monthly fee of 60$ (was 120$ before).
— Dimko Zhluktenko 🇺🇦 (@dim0kq) October 14, 2022
It’s the same for everyone else in EU.
The world’s richest man thinks defending against genocide is “unreasonably” expensive. https://t.co/peHjaIgDVz
— 🇺🇦Paula Chertok🗽 (@PaulaChertok) October 14, 2022
Elon deserves all the backlash he'll get over this, but don't miss that his half billion demand from USG was weeks before ukranians called him out. He did this because he wanted to, not because UA was "ungrateful". https://t.co/jJqu6GmKMI
— Pwn All The Things (@pwnallthethings) October 14, 2022
Elon Musk’s Starlink says it can no longer afford to give Ukraine 🇺🇦 free service and asks the Pentagon 🇺🇸 to pay for it. Starlink had been a game changer in the war.
— Jason Jay Smart (@officejjsmart) October 14, 2022
This comes days after Ukrainian Ambassador @MelnykAndrij told Musk to “fuck off.”
Well, thank you for what you’ve done. And it’s a pity that you gave us up when we started retaking the territories. Low https://t.co/g1AT1YAbgE
— Iuliia Mendel (@IuliiaMendel) October 14, 2022
Elon Musk says 20,000 Starlink satellite internet terminals have been sent to #Ukraine, at a cost by the end of the year of $100m, but in September Musk's SpaceX wrote to the Pentagon saying this must end, asking DoD to take over funding the program. https://t.co/KPgqwx5ERP
— Kyle Orton (@KyleWOrton) October 14, 2022
This is the truth. @elonmusk has a point about paying for the service, and no one would mind if he wasn’t such an asshole about everything. https://t.co/Izyqjm0pun
— Markos Moulitsas (@markos) October 14, 2022
After CNN reporter learns SpaceX has told Pentagon to pay for Starlink service in Ukraine, the reporter apparently is blocked from viewing the reporter’s Twitter account.
— Hans Kristensen (@nukestrat) October 14, 2022
Wonder if that’s going to be Musk’s “free speech” approach if he buys Twitter. https://t.co/Tl4y29aGVW pic.twitter.com/pIHhR8ifjX
The main issue with the @elonmusk Starlink controversy is not payment. Clearly @SpaceX should get paid for the service they are providing—they are not a charity
— Dmitri Alperovitch (@DAlperovitch) October 14, 2022
The key issue is the alleged geofencing on the frontlines, which is impacting Ukrainian counteroffensives
Love to intervene in a high stakes geopolitical conflict then back out because someone sends me a mean tweet https://t.co/T8xlxA9J9y
— Corin Faife (@corintxt) October 14, 2022
As @gilliantett asks “To what degree will US politicians permit a capricious billionaire to exert influence… [on] a foreign war? https://t.co/qnTwPCGyqT
— Henry Foy (@HenryJFoy) October 14, 2022
👇 pic.twitter.com/FQWDIEzA9m
There is an unmistakable streak of malevolence and even sadism here. Whatever the actual rationale for this move, Musk wants to put it out there that Ukraine is in some sense to blame, because it rejected his "peace" plan.
— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) October 14, 2022
So successful yet also so deeply angry https://t.co/kZtTuzFwpm
Definitely @elonmusk is among the world's top private donors supporting Ukraine.
— Mykhailo Fedorov (@FedorovMykhailo) October 14, 2022
Starlink is an essential element of our critical infrastructure.
Pentagon spokes says US hasn't decided yet if it will cover cost of Starlink for Ukraine. "senior leaders are weighing the matter...we want to be able to ensure that there are stable communications for the Ukrainian forces" https://t.co/kXHKewFpZD
— Kim Zetter (@KimZetter) October 14, 2022
A petty little man. pic.twitter.com/kY7ViumIgk
— Roberto Baldwin (@strngwys) October 14, 2022
Seems like business bait and switch, which is illegal. The DOD should not do business with such people.
— Adam Kinzinger #fella (@AdamKinzinger) October 14, 2022
Exclusive: Musk's SpaceX says it can no longer pay for critical satellite services in Ukraine, asks Pentagon to pick up the tab | CNN https://t.co/UO9PsQxdKh
3. I would be VERY curious to see actual transparency on the process of getting StarLinks up and running in Ukraine, all the hidden costs that Elon claims. Because - Ukrainians pay the same price as everyone else but it’s only Ukraine that is a subject to discussion for @elonmusk
— Dimko Zhluktenko 🇺🇦 (@dim0kq) October 14, 2022
Turns out, it's not 100% ideal that management of crucial strategic infrastructure is in the hands of a single giant baby. https://t.co/7BRZrwztr5
— Dave Vetter (@davidrvetter) October 14, 2022
When immaturity and petulance impact the good guys in a war by Elon Musk https://t.co/wFlRaCBxCF
— Jen Psaki (@jrpsaki) October 14, 2022
In light of SpaceX documents sent to the Pentagon which CNN first reported on yesterday, I am wondering how Elon Musk came to the understanding that "only a small percentage have been" paid for... https://t.co/BaZHZjw2L0 pic.twitter.com/33DttPxDHa
— Lora Kolodny (@lorakolodny) October 14, 2022
We’re just following his recommendation 🤷♂️
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 14, 2022
This isn’t true. The timing doesn’t match. Musk’s team asked the Pentagon to pay for Starkink in a letter sent on Sept 8. The Twitter tiff only occurred last week. Doesn’t change that his response below is provocative; but the service cutoff wasn’t prompted by the tiff. https://t.co/PPePT5ZbsN
— Kim Zetter (@KimZetter) October 14, 2022
Weird I keep running into articles like this saying...most of Starlink was being funded by outside money already 🤔 almost like musk is continuing to treat tax payers like his personal bank account and like he doesn't owe anyone anything when he doeshttps://t.co/1mbplepILj pic.twitter.com/Q52I5bVrzh
— Lindsey 🐉 | ♿ (@techevangelista) October 14, 2022
Pentagon spokes says US hasn't decided yet if it will cover cost of Starlink for Ukraine. "senior leaders are weighing the matter...we want to be able to ensure that there are stable communications for the Ukrainian forces" https://t.co/kXHKewFpZD
— Kim Zetter (@KimZetter) October 14, 2022
"Commercial vendors always get to change their mind, unless the Defense Production Act is invoked." @AEI's John Ferrari on what @SpaceForceDOD needs to consider as it increasingly relies on commercial vendors for national security space needs. https://t.co/ze2fQXcKgR
— Tara Copp (@TaraCopp) October 14, 2022
‘There’s not just SpaceX’: Pentagon looks beyond Starlink after Musk says he may end services in Ukraine https://t.co/7ggCXUldTY
— #TuckFrump (@realTuckFrumper) October 14, 2022
In other words you will continue your support for the US proxy war in Ukraine despite your better knowledge that this is a US proxy war and the risk of a nuclear war because of the US proxy war? And we are supposed to believe that you will fix @twitter? How utterly disappointing. https://t.co/4JKovvwYVU
— Kim Dotcom (@KimDotcom) October 15, 2022
The hell with it … even though Starlink is still losing money & other companies are getting billions of taxpayer $, we’ll just keep funding Ukraine govt for free
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 15, 2022
GMAFB!! You literally cut them off!
— ᗷridget is not going back (@bridget123goooo) October 15, 2022
Children are dying in the streets and you cut their communications off you selfish nightmare! And then, you give it back and somehow you deserve… what?? No! It’s doesn’t work like that. You’re a monster @elonmusk https://t.co/gToaC5cUJe https://t.co/y9lkEOp3jK
Elon’s gonna Elon kinda says it all: https://t.co/1dOg7DTw6O pic.twitter.com/k4MW7boNlw
— Kara Swisher (@karaswisher) October 15, 2022
Will geofencing also be turned off on the front lines where the Ukrainians are launching counteroffensives @elonmusk? https://t.co/FmRRNMF2EH
— Dmitri Alperovitch (@DAlperovitch) October 15, 2022
It can be simultaneously true that Starlink
— John Scott-Railton (@jsrailton) October 15, 2022
(a) has un-recuperated spending in Ukraine
(b) is getting paid a *lot*
(c) is getting priceless free publicity
(d) still needs more money
What I don't understand is why Elon picks these fights.
Sweet. Thank you on behalf of the bravest people on earth. https://t.co/3yWqZXq2Ga
— John Sweeney (@johnsweeneyroar) October 15, 2022
Free eh? Let's debunk this right now.
— John Scott-Railton (@jsrailton) October 15, 2022
The US & other Govs pay you handsomely for Starlink.
And loads of Ukrainians scrape money together each month for the service.
No good deed goes unpunished.
— David Sacks (@DavidSacks) October 15, 2022
I believe almost all people can learn and grow, sometimes they just need a bit of encouragement. You have and will likely continue to transform the world with your innovations. Do good works. Your success is our success! https://t.co/CqQ2j4VUB3
— Alexander S. Vindman (@AVindman) October 15, 2022
A senior U.S. official expressed exasperation to me about the Starlink situation in Ukraine involving @elonmusk.
— Dan Lamothe (@DanLamothe) October 14, 2022
Musk “dangles hope over the heads of millions, then sticks the DoD with the bill for a system no one asked for but now so many depend on.”https://t.co/uiitGNwIm4
dude, we, Ukrainians defend your ass from russian nazis with our lives!
— Roman Motychak - ATACMS ASAP 🇺🇦 (@motytchak) October 15, 2022
and we PAY for the Starlink terminals and services
your help is more than welcome, but do not strike a pose of a martyr here!!!
On Starlink: "USAID had paid for some, the Polish and other European governments for more, and various militaries and NGOs contributing for the cost of transport, installation, and apparently the monthly fees for the service itself." https://t.co/P8ywt8b2a3
— Karen Piper (@PiperK) October 15, 2022
BREAKING: Situation at Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Plant Still ‘Precarious,’ U.N. Agency Chief Sayshttps://t.co/35IhUihV40
— Allan Margolin (@AllanMargolin) October 15, 2022
It seems that everybody's reacting to the same information source, namely CNN's paper reporting on SpaceX's letter to the Pentagon asking for financial support to keep the Starlink service alive in Ukraine. But the figures dont make sense to me.
— Pierre Lionnet (@LionnetPierre) October 15, 2022
1/https://t.co/lfQzesbUSw
Elonがウクライナに提供したStarlinkの費用負担を米国防総省に求めた件で批判する人がいるが…
— ZplusC1Bst (M💉x 3) (@ZplusC1Bst) October 15, 2022
1年で570億円の負担。年間の売上(≠利益)が3000億円の企業に負担させるのは無理
戦争初期の混乱に費用を顧みず提供したElonが偉すぎた。Elonが費用負担を求めるのは妥当
1/nhttps://t.co/SUHwWpcnGw
I deleted the SpaceX tweet as someone had said that wasn't what Musk said. According to Reuters, it was: https://t.co/GCiRDCz6zt
— Donald Standeford (@Don_Standeford) October 15, 2022
Elon Musk said SpaceX cannot ‘indefinitely’ fund the Starlink internet service in Ukraine and send it several thousands more terminals after a report suggested that his rocket company had asked the Pentagon to pay for the donations. Read more here: https://t.co/Y9vONpiuOq pic.twitter.com/ijgTYFw2OI
— Reuters Business (@ReutersBiz) October 15, 2022
"The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter not yet made public, said the issue has been discussed in meetings and senior leaders are weighing the matter. There have been no decisions."https://t.co/8vfaBVR3d2
— Justin Coleman (@DemopJ) October 14, 2022
haha all makes sense now
— Def (@DefetyDef) October 16, 2022
CHUMP https://t.co/1feB2nxUza
“There’s not just SpaceX, there are other entities that we can certainly partner with when it comes to providing Ukraine with what they need on the battlefield.”
— Ale (@aliasvaughn) October 15, 2022
- Sabrina Singh, the Pentagon’s deputy press secretary @highbrow_nobrow https://t.co/8XlxoyqQpy
‘There’s not just SpaceX’: Pentagon looks beyond Starlink after Musk says he may end services in Ukraine - very welcome @elonmusk is continuing these, but also right USG has alternatives ready to go. Can’t be dependent on one man’s whim. https://t.co/f7EUgzJBkU
— LouiseMensch 🇺🇸🇺🇦 (@LouiseMensch) October 15, 2022
NEW: The Pentagon is speaking to other satellite communications companies following a report that SpaceX can no longer financially support Starlink terminals in Ukraine, which the country has said is critical for battlefield communications.https://t.co/0kcCfm4Tcy
— Lee Hudson (@LeeHudson_) October 14, 2022
Nah, they threatened to shop around. https://t.co/64NXRfqvTj
— Grand Nagus Nog (@PeaceAlgorithm) October 15, 2022
Pentagon said they were gonna shop around. They were already paying, he tried to get more. https://t.co/64NXRfqvTj
— Grand Nagus Nog (@PeaceAlgorithm) October 15, 2022
イーロン・マスクは土曜日、彼の会社がウクライナでのスターリンク・インターネット・サービスの運用に資金を提供し続けると述べて、突然自分自身を覆した. 「なんてこった」と彼は言った。
— airvaio (@airvaio) October 15, 2022
https://t.co/CGHArpUrhr