A mother performed an abortion on her 23-week pregnant daughter at home.
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 9, 2022
They burned and buried the body.
They then talked about the horrific crime they committed over Facebook dms, which were obtained by a search warrant.
This is how the liars in the media frame the story. pic.twitter.com/Zwfi8nqZ6S
a statement like this implies that meta would've acted differently if the warrant *had* mentioned abortion, or at least that its view is that complying w a such a warrant would be wrong, no?
— evelyn douek (@evelyndouek) August 10, 2022
seems shortsighted as a comms strategy...https://t.co/s0WnIs32Nt
Meta says 'we didn't know it was about abortion.' But Meta never said it wouldn't comply with requests related to abortion, even after Dobbs. We can't trust companies to have people's best interests in mind. But we can demand they encrypt all messages to minimize surveillance. https://t.co/GCiyqT8Ko4
— Fight for the Future (@fightfortheftr) August 10, 2022
This entire "correcting the record" post is just two paragraphs. https://t.co/ry3TUGfSBL
— Chris Welch (@chriswelch) August 10, 2022
Both of these warrants were originally accompanied by non-disclosure orders, which prevented us from sharing any information about them. The orders have now been lifted.”
— Andy Stone (@andymstone) August 10, 2022
If Meta/Facebook makes Messenger end2end encryption default, I suspect next time the news headline will be like "Facebook refused to comply to a court order for a pedophile investigation."$META https://t.co/lsziZrkmtQ
— HC Zhu (@hzhu_) August 10, 2022
These seem like important details.
— David Ingram (@David_Ingram) August 10, 2022
Is Meta planning any changes to how it reviews warrants in the future, in case law enforcement tries to do a bait-and-switch in an abortion case?
We received valid legal warrants from local law enforcement on June 7, before the Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization. The warrants did not mention abortion at all.
— Meta Newsroom (@MetaNewsroom) August 10, 2022
If it hasn't already, Meta is going to get a warrant, it's going to comply, and somebody is going to get arrested for discussing abortion pills. The only responsible action - which is conveniently also the one that would help it save face later on - would be to warn people. https://t.co/GJTIVn3nj5
— dell cameron (@dellcam) August 10, 2022
Meta's response to reporting on this has been very revealing. As usual, the company has said it's "correcting the record" by noting that the search warrant it received didn't mention abortion at all. This is completely irrelevant https://t.co/OJgq3B3QCf
— James Vincent (@jjvincent) August 10, 2022
Much of the reporting about Meta’s role in a criminal case against a mother and daughter in Nebraska is plain wrong. We want to take the opportunity to set the record straight. https://t.co/OY78hmPITz
— Meta Newsroom (@MetaNewsroom) August 10, 2022
What Meta fails to acknowledge is its own failure to provide end-to-end encryption by default, which would have made it impossible for the company’s products to inflict harm here. It built E2EE messaging, then undermined it in order to protect its invasive ad targeting business.
— Jeremiah Lee (@JeremiahLee) August 10, 2022
I think that’s responding to the obvious framing that everyone has made around it, not so much a suggestion they won’t comply with legal warrants in abortion cases. A strange statement no less!
— Alex Heath (@alexeheath) August 10, 2022
While I do enjoy arguing with Andy, it's hard to do so here.
— Jeff Horwitz (@JeffHorwitz) August 10, 2022
Meta has backed more encryption, and post Roe the lines on that (just like the Blackburn and Blumenthal kids legislation) are going to be changing fast.
See @Klonick's for the fuller take. https://t.co/C6gC9ZxACC
Meta responds to story about it handing over data in an abortion case. Says it was not aware it was about abortion -- warrant referenced an alleged "Illegal burning and burial of a stillborn infant" https://t.co/KeiFl4XUSd
— Dave Lee (@DaveLeeFT) August 10, 2022
Unless Meta is announcing a new policy that they will object to search warrants seeking information in abortion-related investigations (which they are not), that sentence means nothing.
— logan koepke (@jlkoepke) August 10, 2022
The warrants concerned charges related to a criminal investigation and court documents indicate that police at the time were investigating the case of a stillborn baby who was burned and buried, not a decision to have an abortion.
— Andy Stone (@andymstone) August 10, 2022
Facebook's sleight of hand here: "The warrants did not mention abortion at all."
— logan koepke (@jlkoepke) August 10, 2022
That sentence would seem to imply that *if* the search warrants mentioned abortion, there would be a different result. But of course that's not true. https://t.co/G0cUOGAgON
This case, where Facebook turned over chats of a Nebraska woman charged with giving her then-underaged daughter abortion pills, is exactly the kind that experts have warned we'd see in a post-Roe world. https://t.co/ovuGEqcgKG
— Kevin Collier (@kevincollier) August 9, 2022
Court documents indicate that police were at that time investigating the alleged illegal burning and burial of a stillborn infant. The warrants were accompanied by non-disclosure orders, which prevented us from sharing information about them. The orders have now been lifted.
— Meta Newsroom (@MetaNewsroom) August 10, 2022
Meta received valid legal warrants from local law enforcement on June 7, before the Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization. More on this here: https://t.co/xVUK9CRmec
— Michael Del Moro (@MikeDelMoro) August 10, 2022
I’m not sure the details are all that important. Investigating a stillbirth - it really doesn’t take much thought to realize what that may mean, especially from a local sheriff in Indiana
— Mindy D (@Mindyd11) August 10, 2022
Not sure it's correct for Meta to call Vice's reporting "plain wrong". I don't see any factual errors. Am sure Meta didn't like the framing but that's another matter.
— Dave Lee (@DaveLeeFT) August 10, 2022
My latest for @Wired:
— Albert Fox Cahn🦊 (@FoxCahn) August 10, 2022
"When police dragged off a 17YO Nebraska girl and charged her and her mother with self-administering a miscarriage, they were armed with damning documents that they could only access through the incompetence and cooperation of Meta."https://t.co/YHlqZ9PzQO
A statement from Meta on this case.
— Andy Stone (@andymstone) August 10, 2022
“Nothing in the valid warrants we received from local law enforcement in early June, prior to the Supreme Court decision, mentioned abortion. https://t.co/GNzdMP692H
The absolute only place online you should be discussing this is Signal. WhatsApp has in the end encryption on their messaging, but it’s under the Meta banner so…
— Sidequest | Ligerzero (@LigerzeroGaming) August 10, 2022
Anything unsecured could be subpoenaed by law enforcement, and they will. Protect yourself. https://t.co/l1w4OENGcl
The implication in this statement by Meta is that it will not comply with court orders in abortion prosecution cases, but the company isn't explicitly saying that. Very tricky legal issue. https://t.co/krNswP2ZV2
— Reed Albergotti (@ReedAlbergotti) August 10, 2022
My latest for @Wired:
— Albert Fox Cahn🦊 (@FoxCahn) August 10, 2022
"When police dragged off a 17YO Nebraska girl and charged her and her mother with self-administering a miscarriage, they were armed with damning documents that they could only access through the incompetence and cooperation of Meta."https://t.co/YHlqZ9PzQO
According to the news article, it was a tip that she had miscarried, a search of her medical records, and a warrant issued to Facebook to collect her messages. This is the playbook, and this case is devastating: https://t.co/NubL6cYRiC https://t.co/EBr9ZRCb1h
— National Advocates for Pregnant Women (@NAPW) August 8, 2022
Police used text messages to investigate a miscarriage and are now charging a 17 year old as an adult for getting an abortion.https://t.co/P7x2PzPqYt pic.twitter.com/c5faCBoZZ1
— Andrew Fleischman (@ASFleischman) August 8, 2022
A mother and daughter in Nebraska are now the 25th instance of criminalization for alleged self-managed abortion. There is no law prohibiting self-managed abortion in Nebraska, but they’ve still been charged with felonies. https://t.co/KxW5oBlJRF
— Hayley McMahon, MSPH, CPH (@McMisoprostol) August 9, 2022
#DeleteFacebook is "peak" journalism and no surprise that Kat Tenbarge has weighed in without searching for what actually happened. https://t.co/I5JPurkfqC pic.twitter.com/XgBqyx18oY
— Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz 🦂 (@cellyszn20) August 10, 2022
This case will rightfully get a lot of attention for its cruelty, and the way sexist laws are being enforced via online surveillance. But I’m struck by another detail. They allegedly used pills to end a pregnancy at 22 weeks—10 weeks past WHO guidelines. https://t.co/IvT6kN02IN
— Moira Donegan (@MoiraDonegan) August 9, 2022
I covered this story in today's @lawdorknews, asking: "Did San Francisco Mayor London Breed know about this when she appointed her to the job after Boudin’s recall?" https://t.co/eWBZMJvIlZ https://t.co/NSu0iQ6nXt
— Chris “Subscribe to Law Dork!” Geidner (@chrisgeidner) August 10, 2022
Also: "[T]his teenage girl — 17 years old when she was pregnant — was named by the local news and national outlets, has been charged as an adult, and will have this (speaking of the internet) likely be the top search result for her for years to come." https://t.co/eWBZMJvIlZ
— Chris “Subscribe to Law Dork!” Geidner (@chrisgeidner) August 10, 2022
In today's newsletter, I look at what we know about the Nebraska case surfaced by @JessicaValenti on Monday. The case highlights a lot of the problems that we were expecting from post-Roe prosecution efforts — and this came out of pre-Dobbs-decision facts. https://t.co/eWBZMJvIlZ
— Chris “Subscribe to Law Dork!” Geidner (@chrisgeidner) August 10, 2022
My big-picture conclusion: "[T]his is a real example of how the medical community, the larger community, and the companies tracking our digital footprint all combine to serve as agents of the state in the state’s attempts at policing pregnancy." https://t.co/eWBZMJvIlZ
— Chris “Subscribe to Law Dork!” Geidner (@chrisgeidner) August 10, 2022
"This is what policing pregnancy in 2022 — often in states with far more severe abortion restrictions — can and will look like." Read it here: https://t.co/eWBZMJvIlZ
— Chris “Subscribe to Law Dork!” Geidner (@chrisgeidner) August 10, 2022
That — @aar718’s new article, c/o @WilliamBaude @ReichlinMelnick — and much more in today’s @lawdorknews: https://t.co/eWBZMJvIlZ https://t.co/HHWMYRLic5
— Chris “Subscribe to Law Dork!” Geidner (@chrisgeidner) August 10, 2022
“These warrants either mean that this blip of admittedly high-profile activity is the last we hear of the @FBI’s Trump-related investigations until after the elections — or it means substantially more is coming in quick order”-@chrisgeidner https://t.co/Ymq5D6F5re pic.twitter.com/Zi9Vo2bCg0
— Alex Howard (@digiphile) August 10, 2022
NEW LAW DORK: “The FBI warrants are big news, but what now? Also: An alleged abortion-related prosecution in Nebraska is a sign of things to come. And: San Francisco's new DA had a secret.” https://t.co/MWp3dm909S
— Law Dork (@lawdorknews) August 10, 2022
Today’s @lawdorknews newsletter is a big one. Check it out, subscribe, and share https://t.co/eWBZMJvIlZ pic.twitter.com/fMXvEzfIK2
— Chris “Subscribe to Law Dork!” Geidner (@chrisgeidner) August 10, 2022
If you're not seriously concerned over future privacy prospects for women in the US after reading this you're missing the point.
— Iain Thomson (@iainthomson) August 10, 2022
Excellent writing by @JessicaHrdcstle and @cmcsherr nailed it. https://t.co/1PsJHvyKRm
Be very very careful about what data you give Facebook. (Or any internet company for that matter). https://t.co/rjThsjB1Uq
— Laura Packard (@lpackard) August 10, 2022
Facebook turned over chat messages between mother and daughter now charged over abortion https://t.co/X3ZbLizhnt
— Johnetta Elzie (@Nettaaaaaaaa) August 10, 2022
Every person should be alarmed by this invasion of privacy. This same scenario could play out in any state where abortion has become illegal- we need tech companies like Meta to step up and protect user data immediately. https://t.co/yA0os8r8HA
— Sarah Kate Ellis (@sarahkateellis) August 10, 2022
Facebook turned over chat messages between mother and daughter now charged over abortion https://t.co/5Heo87ISxq
— CNBC (@CNBC) August 10, 2022