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Epic will appeal the Epic v. Apple decision - The Verge https://t.co/6f97t8rnvg

— lunamoth (@lunamoth) September 11, 2021

Apple won the vast, vast majority of issues Epic tried to bring up, but also I feel like all of those were long shots. But there is an actual win in all those losses (anti-steering), so I’m fascinating by Epic’s rhetoric here.https://t.co/bRnco5akN5

— Dieter Bohn (@backlon) September 10, 2021

Epic will appeal the Epic v. Apple decision https://t.co/rK9UafGjfD pic.twitter.com/XFxmdnxfz5

— The Verge (@verge) September 10, 2021

결국 에픽이 항소하겠다 발표.https://t.co/50ZR9iliVm

— 쿠도군 (@KudoKun_) September 10, 2021

Thanks to everyone who put so much time and effort into the battle over fair competition on digital platforms, and thanks especially to the court for managing a very complex case on a speedy timeline. We will fight on.

— Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic) September 10, 2021

Epic spokeswoman confirms it is appealing the decision; Apple is "considering all legal options" in response. Nobody's happy!

— Bobby Allyn (@BobbyAllyn) September 10, 2021

Here's me on the most important question from the Epic / Apple injunction: what's the difference between a button and an external link? https://t.co/3qTQVMj6rf

— nilay patel (@reckless) September 10, 2021

If I went to court with Apple (no thanks) I would be ecstatic to receive any positive verdict…I honestly don’t understand why Epic is appealing this decision? https://t.co/0aPl27Pl89

— Riles ?‍♂️ (@rileytestut) September 10, 2021

this is an amazing op-ed. @Moonalice argues why Apple needs to "Think Different." Apple is in a position to support Congress and consumers. They need to dump their associations with the surveillance capitalists and fix the app store. Win Win for consumers. https://t.co/0gqkQW3icI pic.twitter.com/QT83K2eQ3I

— Jason Kint (@jason_kint) September 10, 2021

“Apple is permanently restrained and enjoined from prohibiting developers from including buttons in their apps that direct customers to purchasing mechanisms in addition to In-App Purchasing.”

Lots of devs are going to test this, and Apple can be taken back to court over it.

— nilay patel (@reckless) September 11, 2021

And if these tweets don't change your mind, now would be the time to start walking on nails and LEGO barefoot. That will prepare you for working with credit card iFrames.

— Rebecca (Slatkin) Sloane (@RebeccaSlatkin) September 10, 2021

Judge in Apple / Epic issues permanent injunction against Apple, developers now allowed to direct customers to other payment systems. Story coming! pic.twitter.com/4vA2Hj7VIZ

— nilay patel (@reckless) September 10, 2021

The App Store changes ordered by a judge yesterday as part of the Epic-Apple verdict won’t cut into Apple’s profits much.

But it could be a huge win for app developers, who stand to make a boatload more $$$ by dodging App Store fees.

With @jacknicas: https://t.co/yZmWPHOEtO

— Kellen Browning (@Kellen_Browning) September 11, 2021

The Apple decision seems very good for anyone who uses Apple products. An example of courts making it harder for a company to mistreat its own customers.

— Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) September 10, 2021

Apple is saying it's "metadata buttons" on background when it's a lift from 3.1.1 which makes it abundantly clear???? That is rich pic.twitter.com/TAeZTFoG4O

— nilay patel (@reckless) September 10, 2021

Please Apple, do the smart thing. I begged for 4 years. There’s still time.

I truly believe IAP is better for *everyone* - Apple, devs, users. But the rate got too high as “apps” became “the internet”.

I *want* to use IAP! As a dev. As a user. Please drop the rate so I can ?

— Ryan Jones (@rjonesy) September 10, 2021

Me in NYT, making excited conjectures about the possibilities for Pleco as "Kindle for Chinese books."

(also note that I'm talking revenue, not profit, and most of that isn't profit because I pay out a massive amount of royalties)https://t.co/qyQGGin0nq

— Michael Love (@elkmovie) September 11, 2021

I think the legal system is broken in a million ways, but you have to admit that listening to two game corporations arguing about the definition of "game" and the judge deciding that "you're both full of shit" feels like a pretty just outcome.https://t.co/aRVXdmTvJL

— Rami Ismail (رامي) (@tha_rami) September 10, 2021

Prominent tech investor (and critic) makes persuasive case that Apple should take the L on App Store fees, anti-steering rules, and self-preferencing of its apps--in service of a greater W on the privacy, security, and trust that are core to its brand. https://t.co/XqLrjwwx4j

— Will Oremus (@WillOremus) September 10, 2021

“Apple should just take a look around, see which way the wind is blowing, and make some major changes to appease the courts and to please their developers. End this.”https://t.co/YfB5WxUBLv

— Erwin van der Zande (@evdz) September 11, 2021

Today’s decision in the Epic Games v. Apple case is an important step, but it is further evidence that Congress must enact clear rules of the road to prevent platform monopolists from abusing their power and picking winners and losers online. Congress must act!

— David Cicilline (@davidcicilline) September 10, 2021

Apple’s response to Judge’s ruling in Epic Case: pic.twitter.com/LeF4osdTQC

— Mark Gurman (@markgurman) September 10, 2021

Here is a very very important button that directs customers to a purchasing mechanism. Apple is no longer allowed to prohibit these buttons in apps. So... are the doors wide open? https://t.co/3qTQVMj6rf pic.twitter.com/zpqgHzeXUw

— nilay patel (@reckless) September 10, 2021

Zach Shakked’s iPhone app has earned $5 million over the past year.
Apple took nearly $1.5 million of that — its fee for letting him run his app on its devices.

Now he’s hoping Friday’s court ruling will get him to keep much more of that money. https://t.co/W4pv8Ud0x6

— Jack Nicas (@jacknicas) September 11, 2021

Short Version of Judge in Epic-Apple ruling: Apple isn't a monopoly by any federal definition, but it engages in anticompetitive practices under California state law.

— Andrew Ross Sorkin (@andrewrsorkin) September 10, 2021

Its a dumb rule Apple doesnt even need. Not having to enter cc info and being able to manage all my subscriptions in one place and cancel with a swipe is amazing. Its always best just to win on offering the best product instead of anti competitive rules. https://t.co/8rlfHup5Wr

— Adam Kirk (@atomkirk) September 11, 2021

This ruling reaffirms what we know: app stores raise serious competition concerns. While the ruling addresses some of those issues, much more must be done. We need to pass federal legislation on app store conduct to protect consumers, promote competition, and foster innovation. https://t.co/wJGGZ59sYl

— Amy Klobuchar (@amyklobuchar) September 10, 2021

Best analysis of the Epic vs Apple suit and the judge’s injunction. This is actually favorable to Epic and the dev community. Apple is sliding down the slippery slope - more goodness for devs. https://t.co/ctuqGekvRL

— Pravin (rhymes with ravine) (@ppk007) September 11, 2021

I remember from most of my law classes that grammar is never the strong suit of opinions written by the court. I don’t know how this could possibly be interpreted as “metadata buttons.”

— Quinn Nelson (@SnazzyQ) September 10, 2021

Apple’s App Store is likely doing ~$225B in total payment volume annually.

Stripe right now after the Apple v Epic ruling: pic.twitter.com/zidFUeS0lU

— Tanay Jaipuria (@tanayj) September 10, 2021

I have a new op-ed in @TIME arguing that @Apple is exceptionally vulnerable on antitrust and should make whatever compromises with regulators are necessary to protect its crown jewels of privacy and security. https://t.co/FoxPJc4pgM

— Roger McNamee (@Moonalice) September 10, 2021

Agreed.

I think this is a smart ruling. The judge understood the security benefits of the app store monopoly while also stopping that monopoly from being used to bilk consumers and independent developers.

Apple should be fine with the profit margin on $799 phones. https://t.co/Kw6G6LPWUR

— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) September 10, 2021

Bam. In Epiv v Apple, judge rules Apple must allow apps to LINK OUT to external purchases, or lets them use buttons. That level of specificity matters!https://t.co/fdSuyjEBom pic.twitter.com/ILnH29oezC

— Dieter Bohn (@backlon) September 10, 2021

Apple scored a partial victory in a landmark antitrust case, but its fight with opponents of the App Store is far from over $aapl https://t.co/YVjjn7JEbx

— Sarah E. Needleman (@saraheneedleman) September 11, 2021

Here’s Apple’s statement:

"Today the Court has affirmed what we’ve known all along: the App Store is not in violation of antitrust law. As the Court recognized ‘success is not illegal.’” pic.twitter.com/IHwHnLTzBA

— Nick Statt (@nickstatt) September 10, 2021

Judge YGR came off as razor-sharp during the proceedings, which I watched far too much of. And much of Apple’s time was spent trying to deceive & mislead her. Amused that her pinpoint targeted judgment is potentially the most damaging to Apple, delivered days before new iPhone

— Steve Troughton-Smith (@stroughtonsmith) September 10, 2021

I just said this to my actually-practicing lawyer wife and she giggled

— nilay patel (@reckless) September 11, 2021

Tim Cook’s biggest mistake has been his refusal to see inevitable blowback against its policies and self-regulating accordingly. Instead, Apple dug its heels in. https://t.co/2cCavb1Zzo

— Josh Centers (@jcenters) September 10, 2021

I’ve made the same argument myself. Apple has absolutely no reason to play hardball here, and if it continues to do, the results won’t be pretty ... https://t.co/VVG3l1eqGC

— benlovejoy (@benlovejoy) September 10, 2021

There’s no way they can have that conference without Epic in the room! This isn’t going to just be easy for them. And both sides are going to appeal every aspect of this ruling. The uncertainty here is going to last for a long time.

— nilay patel (@reckless) September 11, 2021

Apple: “Waaaaaaaa”
Epic: “Waaaaaaaa”

— Quinn Nelson (@SnazzyQ) September 10, 2021

Here’s the judge’s full reasoning on why anti-steering provisions are bad.

Short answer: "Apple created an innovative platform but it did not disclose its rules to the average consumer. Apple has used this lack of knowledge to exploit its position." pic.twitter.com/AhR2TQMq2x

— Adi Robertson (@thedextriarchy) September 10, 2021

Quite frankly, whole strategy is a total head scratcher. Epic PR should be positioning this as a win for themselves because they got a judge to make the biggest business model change to the App Store in its history. Instead of they are calling it a loss. https://t.co/SHGkeEANph

— Mark Gurman (@markgurman) September 10, 2021

"Please stop viewing antitrust as a penalty for success." An open letter to Tim Cook from Roger McNamee on why Apple should compromise with antitrust regulatorshttps://t.co/XUpuBxVl7Q

— TIME (@TIME) September 10, 2021

Crucial nuance here: I've seen some folks saying Apple has been found to *not* be a monopolist in the Epic Games verdict. That's not quite right. The judge said Epic failed to *prove* Apple a monopolist--but she was careful to leave open the possibility that it is. pic.twitter.com/ArNvV6Owed

— Will Oremus (@WillOremus) September 10, 2021

"And I’m confident Apple will try to say that “button” just means what something looks like, while developers will say that “button” means how something works. (There is a lot of irony in this for Apple.)”

— Dieter Bohn (@backlon) September 10, 2021

Fortnite will return to the iOS App Store when and where Epic can offer in-app payment in fair competition with Apple in-app payment, passing along the savings to consumers.

— Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic) September 10, 2021

Very important clarification needed, but seeing that the ruling is based on wording in Apple’s own agreement makes it much clearer: it covers apps & metadata, it allows buttons, external links, or any other form of call to action https://t.co/N1Rxq78GUY

— Steve Troughton-Smith (@stroughtonsmith) September 10, 2021

#epicvsapple ruling is a step ahead for consumer right, but not a full victory. @Apple must allow developers to send their users to other payment systems, but it doesn’t have to let app makers use their own in-app payment systems. Full text here https://t.co/5hJf3aWWNq pic.twitter.com/oZPwcnib3n

— Marco Scialdone (@marcoscialdone) September 12, 2021

If developers design similar UI to @EpicGames @FortniteGame that showcases how the user saves in the game, of course consumers will use alternative payment methods. By doing so, that forces Apple to compete and get their prices down. https://t.co/sTu5icNHdQ

— Mohamed Mansour (@mohamedmansour) September 11, 2021

1/ I think the judge’s ruling in the Epic vs Apple trial makes eminent sense. Like every retailer, @Apple has a right to a fee for distributing products. And the 30% was cheap when it was introduced. Apple has since cut it in various ways.

— Walt Mossberg (@waltmossberg) September 10, 2021

this is a smart read on the ruling, and most importantly it’s the judge that decides here, not Apple https://t.co/1GbOZ6As87

— Tom Warren (@tomwarren) September 11, 2021

The larger point here is that the judge, not Apple, decides how her ruling is interpreted and enforced https://t.co/UC9KrWKD25

— Jason Snell (@jsnell) September 11, 2021

Today’s ruling isn't a win for developers or for consumers. Epic is fighting for fair competition among in-app payment methods and app stores for a billion consumers. https://t.co/cGTBxThnsP

— Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic) September 10, 2021

Most consumers will still use IAP. Only a handful of apps or brands can successfully, at scale, get normal consumers to use an alternate payment system.

The issue, I see, is the impact to the user experience when developers start hassling you to use their own payments. https://t.co/OC7pIPTeMd

— Ben Bajarin (@BenBajarin) September 10, 2021

In a call with media, Apple General Counsel Kate Adams calls the Epic ruling a “resounding victory” that validates Apple’s business model. She did not comment on the injunction that will force Apple to allow all apps to accept payments outside of Apple’s 15% to 30% IAP system.

— Mark Gurman (@markgurman) September 10, 2021

Apple called the Epic Games antitrust verdict a “huge win.” It wasn’t.

My story about why the App Store remains on shaky ground: https://t.co/NkDdz0L4sK

— Will Oremus (@WillOremus) September 11, 2021

TL;DR on the Epic v. Apple ruling: Apple can’t stop developers from routing people outside the in-app purchasing ecosystem. But Epic has to pay Apple for breaking its rules. pic.twitter.com/cfkUuoKS67

— Adi Robertson (@thedextriarchy) September 10, 2021

2/ And why are policymakers even involved? Because Apple has refused to engage with the legitimate concerns of developers. This thread links to many of my blog posts over the years: https://t.co/atNkHNVZa0

— David Barnard (@drbarnard) September 10, 2021

Today’s ruling on Epic v. Apple is good for everyone involved. We probably won’t use it for @halidecamera, but I applaud it.

It does boggle my mind that Apple is conceding through lawsuits instead of changing App Store policy proactively to avoid anti-trust scrutiny. https://t.co/yHE5hlx9jT

— Sebastiaan de With (@sdw) September 10, 2021

Holy shit, if this sticks - IF
(you know Apl will throw BILLIONS into fighting this)
BUT IF IT STICKS
That will be a monumental shift in mobile apps
Finally in the favor of dev teams of all sizes https://t.co/oDnhVYIyIK

— Stabby Rogue (@ReciRaider) September 11, 2021

On the eve of the iPhone 13 event, the Apple vs. Epic trial result is out. Judge rules Apple is not a monopolist, but issues an injunction that will force Apple to allow steering to outside payment methods. Apple made similar concession last week, but it didn’t apply to games. pic.twitter.com/mYWAcYNbhV

— Mark Gurman (@markgurman) September 10, 2021

Bipartisan consensus that the Epic / Apple ruling is not enough. Similar statement from Klobuchar today as well https://t.co/6DCw0FM8gk

— nilay patel (@reckless) September 11, 2021

that seems like a misreading to me. It is a list of things that apple can't prohibit in "apps and their metadata," and that list includes "buttons, external links, or other calls to action that direct customers to purchasing mechanisms"

— Dieter Bohn (@backlon) September 10, 2021

I think the court means button and links *are* the same thing - things that take you out of the app. If YGR wanted to tell devs/Apple that this could happen in the app she’d just write that in plaintext.

So we’ll see!

— Peter Kafka (@pkafka) September 10, 2021

I love this from @mgsiegler. It underscores what I’ve been arguing for the last couple of years: if Apple would just make sensible changes, so much of the regulatory scrutiny would go away, so much goodwill would be restored and so little would be lost https://t.co/jmYGGumxDd

— Christina Warren (@film_girl) September 12, 2021

"Together, the legal setbacks and the tighter regulatory controls indicate that Apple’s long run of calling all the shots on the App Store — one of the linchpins of the internet economy — may be ending."https://t.co/Ba83RWPqa2

— Paul Graham (@paulg) September 11, 2021

NYT: "A Win for App Developers"
Ars Technica: "Major Win for Epic Games"
BBC: "Apple Dealt Major Blow"
Politico: "Apple Wins Epic Antitrust Suit."
(I went with "Mixed Ruling," but largely agree with Politico this was a favorable development for Apple.)

— Eriq Gardner (@eriqgardner) September 10, 2021

We knew the App Store is really a Game Store, but…

98% of all IAP revenue comes from games.

WOW pic.twitter.com/dWLHH5mFQU

— Ryan Jones (@rjonesy) September 10, 2021

.@Apple would be smart to negotiate with regulators. Side loading is coming in EU, and maybe US, unless Apple cuts a deal. Side loading would kill Apple crown jewels of privacy, security. Apple can make economic, policy concessions to avoid side loading. https://t.co/FoxPJc4pgM

— Roger McNamee (@Moonalice) September 10, 2021

To sum up Epic games has won after being defeated in court, and Apple will be forced to make massive sweeping yet very minor changes that will change absolutely everything and yet nothing for developers and will cost the company it’s huge App Store cash cow that is actually tiny

— Stephen Warwick (@StephenWarwick9) September 10, 2021

Everything you need to know – or at least I what I thought was interesting – in <100 tweets about the Apple/Epic lawsuit verdict today.

— Scott Kupor (@skupor) September 10, 2021

Could not agree more with @mgsiegler on this one. End it Apple, please!https://t.co/SCN6L1q6gN pic.twitter.com/iSNA0urJXt

— Ruan Viljoen (@ruanviljoen) September 11, 2021

Agree. Epic is positioning this as a loss - but it is actually mostly a win for many developers. Ironic they are calling it a loss when they entered the trial saying they were doing this for the developer community, not for themselves. https://t.co/4oNBEGBbx5

— Mark Gurman (@markgurman) September 10, 2021

Disagree. MG is a thoughtful person on this but the Japanese settlement and this recent decision really show that Apple can make minor changes that empower devs while maintaining their current posture. https://t.co/zI8jUkCktS

— John Wilson (@JohnWilson) September 11, 2021

The silly thing is to trust my credit card with a link outside AppStore, met a lot of users who said they will never do that so Apple wins. AppStore refund policy is one of the best trusting a link outside the store would be useless. https://t.co/fHmXei4xgG

— ??Jerry Sarpong (@jerryluti) September 11, 2021

Great summary/quotes. Look beyond the (one) headline. #epicvapple

It is very rare to see so many points of substance go the opposite direction of headline. Also unusual to see so much doubt cast on expert witnesses. https://t.co/F4s9GDXxrg

— Steven Sinofsky (@stevesi) September 11, 2021

I might not know much but after spending nearly a year working on a team of 50+ to get an e-commerce giant PCI compliant (including a terrifying audit&interrogation/a very bumpy Black Friday), I would cling to the App Store Payment System instead of taking that on internally.

— Rebecca (Slatkin) Sloane (@RebeccaSlatkin) September 10, 2021

As always, the most important question in tech comes down to “what is a button?”https://t.co/2tl01tDGt4

— Chaim Gartenberg (@cgartenberg) September 10, 2021

“By refusing to engage with the legitimate concerns of policymakers, Apple is risking its core security and privacy brand to protect business practices that are not essential to its future.” https://t.co/aYPc9e271b

— David Barnard (@drbarnard) September 10, 2021

Potential soon news: Unreal Engine announces fully integrated mobile payment solution with a 12% cut for iOS projects only. Literally just one click to enable it - extremely user-friendly.

I mean, I could see them do it.

— Rami Ismail (رامي) (@tha_rami) September 10, 2021

Bad day for @Apple. They won things on technicalities, but lost trust of judge and lost on the key issue. Antitrust law will apply better to other app segments. New normal: when you do indefensible in plain sight, you will be regulated. My @TIME op-ed: https://t.co/FoxPJc4pgM

— Roger McNamee (@Moonalice) September 10, 2021

This is an excellent outcome for developers and ultimately the consumer. https://t.co/K7CGAqgy7Z

— Prof Shafi Ahmed PhD FRCS (@ShafiAhmed5) September 11, 2021

Judge finds Apple *is* engaging in anticompetitive conduct under California’s competition laws. When coupled with Apple’s incipient antitrust violations, these anti-steering provisions are anticompetitive and a *nationwide remedy* to eliminate those provisions is warranted.”

— Patrick McGee (@PatrickMcGee_) September 10, 2021

This is my interpretation as well, having spoken to Apple reps. https://t.co/f0I0B1KbV7

— John Gruber (@gruber) September 10, 2021

Question is: did Apple’s decisions over the past few weeks… steer (sorry) the Judge’s ruling? Or did Apple determine those were the two most likely decisions from the Judge and make a calculated bet to preempt her? I’d bet on the latter.

— Mark Gurman (@markgurman) September 10, 2021

Last thing: I was part of the team that interviewed several PCI 3rd party providers who bid on our account. You can do all the due diligence in the world (we did) but there are incompetent wolves in sheep's clothing with fake uptime stats every where you look.

— Rebecca (Slatkin) Sloane (@RebeccaSlatkin) September 10, 2021

NYT is missing two major things:

1. Users will do whatever is easiest. Basic UX Product Management. This is definitely solvable.

2. It's going to take significant time to ramp up alternative payment methods that work at scale of Apple's payment processors. https://t.co/6zANHbtHU7

— Adam Holisky ? #ABetterABK (@AdamHolisky) September 11, 2021

Reminder - App Store commission was about $15 billion last year (6% of Apple revenue) and 80 to 90% games. The interesting question is whether Apple’s rules have stopped things other than games from working. Has Apple gerrymandered the store?

— Benedict Evans (@benedictevans) September 10, 2021

What’s a button and what’s a link ... What are we debating, court legalese or iOS 7 design principles?

— Benjamin Mayo (@bzamayo) September 10, 2021

Judge in Epic v. Apple concluded Apple wasn’t a monopoly, but interesting side comment: “unlike … the computer gaming market, nothing other than legal action seems to motivate Apple to reconsider pricing and reduce rates” for its app fees.

— Adi Robertson (@thedextriarchy) September 10, 2021

Good analysis by @WillOremus. Apple is at least a little worse off after the Epic verdict. The judge almost begs another plaintiff to bring a new case. And the use of California law, if upheld on appeal, opens a new seam for antitrust plaintiffs to take on big tech. That’s huge. https://t.co/q2GHzPDchJ

— Reed Albergotti (@ReedAlbergotti) September 12, 2021

Of note, Epic’s preliminary injunction (to keep the Epic dev account & ability to use Xcode, build, sign, and distribute Unreal Engine for Apple’s platforms) is terminated.

I’m not sure what happens here; if Apple is vindictive, Epic may be forced to drop support for iOS & macOS pic.twitter.com/jK6lwks2sk

— Steve Troughton-Smith (@stroughtonsmith) September 10, 2021

This by @mgsiegler highlights the quandry that mobile OS vendors have now, and it's gonna be fascinating to see if they take the door out that would actually keep their users safe.https://t.co/cOO5uzGSIS https://t.co/GnDvUyj2am

— Alex Russell (@slightlylate) September 11, 2021

Excellent report by @WillOremus. Epic case has one clear negative for @Apple — it limits AppStore lock in — and lays ground for future cases in CA against Apple and others. Tolerance of monopoly is disappearing, with profound implications for Big Tech. Feds are watching, too. https://t.co/7R2fY8nL3W

— Roger McNamee (@Moonalice) September 12, 2021

This points out something about Friday’s court order it’s important to note: it’ll require gamers to take the extra step to make a payment. Is saving 30% on a few dollars enough motivation to make that effort? https://t.co/RKt6icM1cd

— mark seibel (@markseibel) September 11, 2021

"Apple’s slow innovation stems in part from its low investment in the App Store." Just brutal pic.twitter.com/uIRcj3Mgkz

— nilay patel (@reckless) September 10, 2021

My guess is that soon, well within the 90 days, Apple will confer with YGR re: updated App Store Guidelines to make sure they comply with the injunction. Our collective uncertainty today will dissipate before any developers have the chance to test it.

— John Gruber (@gruber) September 11, 2021

App developers celebrated a judge's ruling that Apple must change how it manages its App Store. For the smallest app makers, the ruling could lead to a windfall. https://t.co/uOdbATTknL

— NYTimes Tech (@nytimestech) September 11, 2021

Judge: even if you have the best product, hiding other options from your customers is anti-competitive. Seems significant for other Big Tech antitrust cases https://t.co/w6iXx6Dg84

— Gerrit De Vynck (@GerritD) September 10, 2021

Prof. Chris @Hoofnagle views the decision as a major victory for app developers, although he is worried that the greater freedom to post in-app links will weaken privacy and security https://t.co/mmC3MlwbgA

— UC Berkeley Law (@BerkeleyLaw) September 11, 2021

surely roblox can reverse the whole 'experiences' thing now right https://t.co/nTNbZTVmUp

— Erion (@SirRovers) September 11, 2021

My GUESS is that Fortnite returns to the App Store sometime early next year — better for Apple, Epic, and consumers. Epic could build a website for buying V-Bucks on the web and implement a button in Fortnite and comply with other App Store rules that led to its removal.

— Mark Gurman (@markgurman) September 10, 2021

Here’s @reckless on the important sentence in today’s ruling.

There is a real “where does the comma go and does that change things like with the first amendment" vibe to all this!https://t.co/5SrZT50lgb

— Dieter Bohn (@backlon) September 10, 2021

No, that’s not at all what they’re saying on background. They’re saying the ruling is unambiguous that Apple is allowed to mandate that (lowercase) in-app purchases must use Apple’s (uppercase) In-App Purchase processing.

Pages 149-150 of the ruling.

— John Gruber (@gruber) September 10, 2021

kk, I think a weirdly placed comma has everyone in a tizzy

remove the "and their metadata buttons," and the interpretation is purely about linking out, no outside payments in the app

have on some authority that this is Apple's understanding too pic.twitter.com/n9wcpXhh3C

— Jacob Eiting (@jeiting) September 10, 2021

As I’ve said before, Stripe is the big winner here. Why give Apple 30% when you can give Stripe 3% instead?

A lot of public companies from Match group to Roblox just got a whole lot more valuable overnight. https://t.co/qQURT9eYnx

— Dare Obasanjo (@Carnage4Life) September 10, 2021

Important quote from the judge's ruling today: "Nothing other than legal action seems to motivate Apple to reconsider pricing and reduce rates."

— nilay patel (@reckless) September 10, 2021

Whether it's Apple's attitude towards the courts and governments, or its treatment of developers and customers, or its view of competitors, one factor is common: their unabashed arrogance. https://t.co/D9xXB7QFvY

— Dan Masters – OhMDee.com (@OhMDee) September 11, 2021

Judge in Epic Games v Apple pointing out what many in tech know but don't like to talk about: A huge chunk of app revenue comes from users addicted to the dopamine hits that come from smashing the IAP button in games. pic.twitter.com/QkdzlooEEt

— Stephen Nellis (@StephenNellis) September 10, 2021

New story: Apple is being forced to make the most significant change ever to the App Store, but it will only cost them a few billion dollars annually, or about 1% of revenue. This is a loss for Epic, but a win for Apple and many developers. https://t.co/SQgXxc4ekt

— Mark Gurman (@markgurman) September 10, 2021

What Apple thinks the injunction means …doesn’t matter. It’s the court’s guideline now. Maybe the judge is fine with requiring the button to open Safari, or is okay with popping an in app browser, or thinks it should allow a fully native in-app flow.

— Dieter Bohn (@backlon) September 10, 2021

this is fucking huge news, apps can now start accepting crypto as payment and still be listed on the app store - lets gooo https://t.co/NNsgV7NJVS

— goblin (@TheGoblinnn) September 10, 2021

I love a lawsuit where both companies lose… kinda hope we get a win out of this… https://t.co/mXVMpMpyD2

— dan le sac ?? (@danlesac) September 10, 2021

Overall this shows just how hard it is to define markets in antitrust cases involving Big Tech. The judge disagreed with both Apple and Epic's definition of the relevant market.

— Cat Zakrzewski (@Cat_Zakrzewski) September 10, 2021

“The court isn’t stupid — it specified buttons and external links, which means they are presumed to be distinct. So a button can’t just be an external link that kicks you to Safari.” - good read by ⁦@reckless⁩ https://t.co/Hbbi5CltBl

— Todd Haselton (@robotodd) September 10, 2021

#Gaming Epic Games court ruling unlikely to seriously damage Apple's services business - CNBC https://t.co/Es4riPOa0s >> #playstation #nintendo #xboxone #pcgaming #Esports #twitch #gamedev #indiegames #coding #java #python

— PDH (@PDH_SciTechNews) September 11, 2021

Epic Games court ruling unlikely to seriously damage Apple's services business https://t.co/2Jo0x5oAlF

— CNBC (@CNBC) September 10, 2021

Epic Gamesの判決がAppleのサービス事業に深刻なダメージを与える可能性は低い

判決は、アップルによる最大30%こアプリ内課金を回避するために、iPhoneアプリのユーザーに自分のウェブサイトへのリンクを提供して支払いを行うことを可能にすると決定。$AAPL

https://t.co/SLEz2FZv9O

— Dr. 犬 (けん) @セミFIRE? (@MinorityRepFIRE) September 10, 2021

A comprehensive breakdown of the Epic v. Apple ruling https://t.co/zVVTvcWfQ9 pic.twitter.com/EnuNuMJ7Ms

— The Verge (@verge) September 12, 2021

The Verge finally gets it right.

(With full compliments to @thedextriarchy)

Article: https://t.co/yjiJYnUEMV pic.twitter.com/HRfMfL9tri

— Richard Hoeg (@HoegLaw) September 12, 2021

For anybody who’s curious about what exactly happened on Friday, I broke down the nuances of the 185-page Epic v. Apple ruling in, well… less than 185 pages https://t.co/WLwl6S7gjm

— Adi Robertson (@thedextriarchy) September 12, 2021

Epic appeals ruling in lawsuit against Apple over App Store rules https://t.co/yeum6oj6bL pic.twitter.com/NTU1I2odwa

— Engadget Gaming (@engadgetgaming) September 12, 2021

Epic Games 対 Apple 裁判の判決の解説記事はこれが一番かなhttps://t.co/IJg2Gktsqf

— . (@anonymouseal) September 12, 2021

Nobody really won in the battle royale between Apple and Fortnite https://t.co/7S1LL2VkaI pic.twitter.com/7oRzlOgmle

— The A.V. Club (@TheAVClub) September 12, 2021

気になる海外のITニュース?
Epic appeals ruling in lawsuit against Apple over App Store rules - Engadget#ブログ#ITエンジニア#ブログ書け#駆け出しエンジニアと繋がりたいhttps://t.co/vSiruOFuDC

— よしなしごと｜Yoshinashigoto (@yoshinashigoto_) September 13, 2021