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Um…that would be epic, but doubtful… https://t.co/gxDeh31HFE
— Aaron Zollo (@zollotech) August 29, 2021
This boggles my mind! Support video from 2017 appears to have an iPhone 12 in it. Even has the UWB antenna. Maybe Apple has access to some exclusive business tool that lets you edit old videos while retaining the same link as before? Or are we THAT blind?https://t.co/dOxZiaOqLl pic.twitter.com/LYsVcji0q8
— Tailosive Tech (@TailosiveTech) August 29, 2021
Because the antenna issue has long been insurmountable in terms of size/cost given the infrequent use of the feature and the prioritization of slim handsets.
— Sascha Segan (@saschasegan) August 29, 2021
Bonus: The "iPhone Math" reference is from when the iPhone 6 came out. A translation error from a Chinese web site misread "iPhone 6 Plus" as "iPhone 6 Math." One of my favorite errors EVER.
— Sascha Segan (@saschasegan) August 30, 2021
1/ No, the iPhone 13 will not talk to satellites.
— Robᵉʳᵗ Graham #PcapsOrItDidntHappen (@ErrataRob) August 30, 2021
Instead, the iPhone will (according to rumors) now support another radio band for 4G/5G that was previously assigned to satellite service but which now can be used for terrestrial service.
12/ @saschasegan gets to the same conclusion that I do. Apple is not launching a LEO service with iPhone 13 and $GSAT. ?♂️ https://t.co/ZRMSWjljZu
— Anp?️nman (@spacanpanman) August 30, 2021
Shares fell once cooler heads remembered what current sat phones — and their monster antennae — look like, and how they looking nothing like a current iPhone. https://t.co/4et6Nfi1LR
— Phil (@philnickinson) August 30, 2021
Apple has had wifi calling for years. But the battery and antennae requirements of LEO are not the kind of thing you just as a feature.
— Benedict Evans (@benedictevans) August 29, 2021
Don’t get me wrong, I’m also a little sceptical. Largely on the basis of feasibility and Apple’s dislike of cutting edge wireless technologies (aka battery draws). But Kuo should not be dismissed, he is well sourced.
— Alex Brooks (@alexbrooks) August 29, 2021
iPhone getting bidirectional satellite communication capability would be cool for outdoor activities. Iridium Go was introduced back in 2014 so maybe something for short bust of data would be possible without a too complicated RF design?
— Khaos Tian (@KhaosT) August 29, 2021
what ... the what? Just ... what?
— Sascha Segan (@saschasegan) August 29, 2021
Globalstar is a satellite company, yes! But Globalstar also owns a swathe of terrestrial spectrum in the 2.4GHz zone called b53/n53 which it has been trying to get used by private networks and LAA deployments. See: https://t.co/VqJhv3dDC9
— Sascha Segan (@saschasegan) August 30, 2021
1/ Some thoughts on Kuo's iPhone 13 LEO connectivity rumors. $ASTS $GSAT $APPL $IRDM https://t.co/AqeMhZ9x3o
— Anp?️nman (@spacanpanman) August 30, 2021
Mac Rumors: Kuo: iPhone 13 to Feature LEO Satellite Communications to Make Calls and Texts Without Cellular Coverage https://t.co/VD7Dovi3AK
— Michael Kukielka (@DetroitBORG) August 29, 2021
With new chip ? https://t.co/wOFbxGjT4W pic.twitter.com/kWK05Xtwhs
— LP iHacktu Pro (@ihacktu) August 29, 2021
As I presented in 2016, Apple is on the path to owning a high speed satellite network.
— Brian Roemmele (@BrianRoemmele) August 29, 2021
At some point rending 5G or otherwise irrelevant. https://t.co/gkvDh9pIx2
A satphone in every pocket? https://t.co/rES11h3Ilm
— Eli Dourado (@elidourado) August 29, 2021
But ... you take b53/n53 connectivity, it becomes "iPhone has Globalstar" which becomes "iPhone has satellites" and here we are. New ground-based LTE/LAA band. Not satellites. @TechmemeChatter
— Sascha Segan (@saschasegan) August 30, 2021
This is EPIC! Especially for sailors.https://t.co/oHPlePvSrO
— Alex MacCaw (@maccaw) August 29, 2021
When I worked in the oil industry, everyone in remote fields heard that iPhone 4S stood for Satellite. And they ALL bought it. This is a huge deal for certain industries.
— Ryan Jones (@rjonesy) August 29, 2021
And out of nowhere! https://t.co/3hcF1jbSlN
To the moon...er...low earth orbit $GSAT $AAPL
— Morgan Brennan (@MorganLBrennan) August 30, 2021
Also- $IRDM higher on the prospect, and $ASTS trading up today too https://t.co/WxlwEquVtR
Qualcomm's x65 modem supports b53/n53 but the x60 does not. However, the Qualcomm modem in the iPhones may be an ... erm, x60-and-a-half. In other words, it could be an x60 + b53/n53. This DOES NOT IMPLY TALKING TO SATELLITES. It's a ground based band G'star wants to enhance LTE
— Sascha Segan (@saschasegan) August 30, 2021
Woah this would be a pretty cool feature ngl https://t.co/LHXGM7UFdp
— Saran (@SaranByte) August 29, 2021
Haven't heard this, but cool none the less
— McGuire Wood ? (@Jioriku) August 29, 2021
JB tweak gonna launch to link you to Starlink mark my words lmao https://t.co/OtKJ5LVWeU
Ming-Chi Kuo is one of the most reliable Apple analysts out there, but it seems so unlikely that this tech would make it into this year’s phone without a peep until now. Very cool though! ? https://t.co/LKG0VjIUSz
— Kevin Fox is hopeful ?? (@kfury) August 29, 2021
OKAY. I think I may have gotten to the bottom of this "iPhone 13 will include satellite connectivity" rumor, and it could be "iPhone Math" levels of game-of-telephone. The key: Globalstar.
— Sascha Segan (@saschasegan) August 30, 2021
There is no way in hell Apple is going to be first with such a weird niche tech like this. Even if it works it’ll be in a Samsung device and nobody will use it for several years before Apple adopt it. https://t.co/ySFt2HAamw
— James O'Malley (@Psythor) August 29, 2021
$AAPL iPhone 13 rumors go sky-high with satellite connection. reports suggest that it will include support for satellite mobile, which consumers could use when terrestrial-based 4G and 5G are not available. The one getting most of the glory: Globalstar.https://t.co/rl7jIa3ga7
— ? ??????? & ?????? ? (@Mayhem4Markets) August 31, 2021