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Facebook helpfully points out that it is not an actual government and that there are ways to express yourself without using Facebook. pic.twitter.com/Pb6evszRD5
— Peter Kafka (@pkafka) June 4, 2021
Facebook's 2-year ban on Trump may grab the most attention today, but this is a much more significant move IMO https://t.co/3Dq0CIXlaq
— Ryan Browne (@Ryan_Browne_) June 4, 2021
two.... I mean There are four years of reasons we could point to why it should be longer https://t.co/faeJDrQW6Q
— Marc-André Argentino (@_MAArgentino) June 4, 2021
If FB is making a decision on future penalties based on some subjective sense of the overall political environment, rather than Trump's own identifiable behavior, it's basically carte blanche to do what they want. Which was the case beforehand, of course. https://t.co/bSkm72kmCd
— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) June 4, 2021
not a good look for GOP senate when Facebook acts more responsible https://t.co/0C0cRxOJZh
— Philip Gourevitch (@PGourevitch) June 4, 2021
Trump: "Facebook’s ruling is an insult to the record-setting 75M people, plus many others, who voted for us in the 2020 Rigged Presidential Election." (1/2)
— Dave Lee (@DaveLeeFT) June 4, 2021
The biggest takeaway from Trump's overall ban is… rules. Actual rules.
— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) June 4, 2021
You can get banned for a month or 6 months or a year or 2 years, and Facebook can also say you can't use its service ever again.
Facebook has rules and punishments now, which include permanent expulsion. pic.twitter.com/Wvm9sElhUC
Been interesting watching the slow drip of Trump-related news out of Facebook’s PR machine. Feels like the whole thing has been drawn out, with selective things being shared, while big decisions are purposefully kept under wraps.
— Ryan Mac? (@RMac18) June 4, 2021
This is a confusing story. Facebook told the Oversight Board that it never applied the newsworthiness policy to Donald Trump. So is it changing the policy it didn't apply? 1/2
— Chinmayi Arun (@chinmayiarun) June 4, 2021
https://t.co/Rhklznmsqx
Whatever you think of Facebook's policy decisions, it is fascinating to me how much thought appears to go into them & how every decision adds to an enormous web of bylaws that are almost impossible to police at scale effectively https://t.co/vhpZhcWFAt
— Olivia Solon (@oliviasolon) June 4, 2021
Facebook says Trump will remain suspended for 2 years (which conveniently would allow him back in time to run again in 2024) https://t.co/6DnXnZ12l5 pic.twitter.com/fhdP9jyi7a
— Karissa Bell (@karissabe) June 4, 2021
— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) June 4, 2021
There’s a reason why Facebook banned Donald Trump for at least two more years. Because he’s a lying sociopathic sack of crap who poisons people’s minds.
— Rob Reiner (@robreiner) June 4, 2021
Just in: Facebook says Trump's suspension from Facebook/Instagram will be for 2 years effective Jan. 7 and he will only be reinstated if "conditions permit." https://t.co/XuOctpI7Qe
— Abby D. Phillip (@abbydphillip) June 4, 2021
NEWS: Facebook is suspending Donald Trump’s accounts for two years, effective from the date of the initial suspension in January this year. https://t.co/F76gPyF3as
— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) June 4, 2021
Ok this one is very funny pic.twitter.com/0KQyDuQU71
— Ryan Mac? (@RMac18) June 4, 2021
“Learn to no code” https://t.co/F9DLHx3LNi
— modest proposal (@modestproposal1) June 4, 2021
Facebook is reversing its policy protecting politicians from engaging in harmful speech and said Trump will remain suspended for two years (That'll go through midterm elections). https://t.co/c1tItcmsUv
— Jennifer Elias (@jenn_elias) June 4, 2021
(2/2) "They shouldn’t be allowed to get away with this censoring and silencing, and ultimately, we will win. Our Country can’t take this abuse anymore!"
— Dave Lee (@DaveLeeFT) June 4, 2021
"if conditions permit" lol this is facebook not an outdoor event https://t.co/WkKXJcPLDV
— Charlie Warzel (@cwarzel) June 4, 2021
Excited to play this game of corporate Calvinball again in 2023. https://t.co/REDMMWjkE0
— Kevin Roose (@kevinroose) June 4, 2021
Very belatedly (about a decade too late) Facebook is making the right moves in reconsidering how it enables abuses of power. There are other things the platform should be doing as well as changing the threshold for posts eg registering political contracts https://t.co/LpbhysI1dh
— emily bell (@emilybell) June 4, 2021
It’s unsurprising that the guy who baselessly claims millions of Democratic votes were just ‘made up’ has no problem casually stating that he himself got 783,846 more votes than he actually did. https://t.co/6NZyaxOHpc
— Kevin Fox is hopeful ?? (@kfury) June 4, 2021
Facebook has done more to hold Donald Trump accountable than congressional Republican.
— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) June 4, 2021
‘If conditions permit’
— Liam Thorp ? (@LiamThorpECHO) June 4, 2021
As in, if fascism becomes tolerated? https://t.co/fWEkJcggNo
I wrote out 5 quick thoughts about the trump/facebook thing because i have a blog https://t.co/MrJc8oevsk pic.twitter.com/PloMu1oeYi
— Charlie Warzel (@cwarzel) June 4, 2021
Or that he’ll be back, regardless of how https://t.co/FihGFNI986
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) June 4, 2021
>>When the suspension is eventually lifted, there will be a strict set of rapidly escalating sanctions that will be triggered if Mr. Trump commits further violations in future, up to and including permanent removal of his pages and accounts.<< https://t.co/OWY3qW1FH3
— Staci D Kramer (@sdkstl) June 4, 2021
I read fast so maybe I missed it but... isn’t the reading here that FB has no intention of re-platforming Trump and this is just the scaffolding they will refer to whenever asked?
— Peter Kafka (@pkafka) June 4, 2021
You: Hey Facebook can Trump be reinstated?
FB: Let me check on the conditions... no, sorry.
Repeat.
Just in:@Facebook announces former President Trump's Facebook and Instagram accounts will remain suspended until at least January 2023.
— Taylor Popielarz (@TaylorPopielarz) June 4, 2021
"At the end of this period, we will look to experts to assess whether the risk to public safety has receded."https://t.co/21bCx2wLat
Facebook only bans trump for 2 years? He's STILL spreading his lies about election fraud, undermining the integrity of our elections.
— BrooklynDad_Defiant! (@mmpadellan) June 4, 2021
You suck, Facebook.
It's been a while, but Facebook employees are once again outraged! Gotta reset the counter. https://t.co/tZi6eOTJRu
— Pinboard (@Pinboard) June 4, 2021
Breaking: Facebook has suspended Trump for two years, until at least January 2023.
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 4, 2021
Given Facebook's creepy quasi-judicial sentence that Trump is banned for two years conditioned on being well-behaved, it's worth recalling the warnings of world leaders of the dangers of tech monopolies having this power.
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) June 4, 2021
First: Mexico's President AMLO:
pic.twitter.com/5cL5vqq3Ug
In response to the @OversightBoard's ruling, Facebook is suspending Donald Trump’s accounts for 2 years, effective from the date of the initial suspension in January this year. At that time, we will assess the public safety risk and extend the restrictions if conditions require. https://t.co/23JTzX2pfx
— Nick Clegg (@nickclegg) June 4, 2021
Two years on the naughty step for Mr Trump & then a clear path for a presidential run in 2024 ?????? https://t.co/t6b1t2HSdH
— Carole Cadwalladr (@carolecadwalla) June 4, 2021
NEW: Facebook says it’s suspending Trump’s accounts for 2 years noting his actions “constituted a severe violation of our rules which merit the highest penalty available under the new enforcement protocols.” https://t.co/PM5u4D4kHF
— Jennifer Franco (@jennfranconews) June 4, 2021
“We shouldn’t have this power” says company that spent 17 years building this power https://t.co/BTNsjISLwd pic.twitter.com/ucjENMbjCR
— Sarah Frier (@sarahfrier) June 4, 2021
The penalty for trying to overthrow the government is a two-year Facebook time-out
— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) June 4, 2021
Just in time for him to come spew his filth in the 2024 election. Well done, all. Really top stuff. https://t.co/8UgYSbuR37
— Gabrielle Levy ??♀️ (@gabbilevy) June 4, 2021
In Response to Oversight Board, Trump Suspended for Two Years; Will Only Be Reinstated if Conditions Permit https://t.co/0n1pWwv9kM
— Facebook Newsroom (@fbnewsroom) June 4, 2021
Amazing. Facebook suspends trump from the network for two years, just in time to welcome him back in 2023https://t.co/2kPWQYehWP
— rat king (@MikeIsaac) June 4, 2021
$FB is a bunch of cowards, they're gonna wait to see which way the political wind blows in 2 years, unreal https://t.co/9mbeAzQimt
— Open Outcrier (@OpenOutcrier) June 4, 2021
Preventing someone running for president from having a platform raises bigger questions than a private citizen. That goes double for prosecuting someone. In both cases, the worse his situation gets the more motive to run or at least act like he's running. This is predictable. https://t.co/bukqcdm3ck
— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) June 4, 2021
And here were the warnings from Merkel, Macron and EU officials -- all of whom, like AMLO, condemned the banning of Trump from social media -- that democracy is imperiled if tech monopolies decide who can and can't be heard:https://t.co/wk4HLo76J6
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) June 4, 2021
Just in time for the 2024 election conventions! https://t.co/rn4oPjZNhu
— Vivian Schiller (@vivian) June 4, 2021
Trump is off FB till 2023. Could be back in time for the GOP primaries “if conditions permit" https://t.co/U6ao29zAgJ
— Sam Stein (@samstein) June 4, 2021
If I understand Facebook's stated reasoning, they kicked him off for inciting violent unrest and in two years they will reassess... whether he's learned his lesson and won't do it again? https://t.co/YVf2wPp5sd
— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) June 4, 2021
Case in point: would this “Rigged election” statement, posted on FB, get him booted off again in January 2023? pic.twitter.com/ukUtf5i0R4
— Cecilia Kang 강 미선 (@ceciliakang) June 4, 2021
"if Donald Trump posting is the risk to public safety, how do you evaluate the risk to public safety in an environment you’ve removed him from?" https://t.co/NaOntt7gbP
— Brendan Nyhan (@BrendanNyhan) June 4, 2021
Down the road: Hello!
— Joanna Stern (@JoannaStern) June 4, 2021
Kicked can: Nice to meet you. https://t.co/jhTyB4R8Iq
Facebook continues to monetize pain, suffering, and lies, all while its leaders pretend to have a shred of morality.
— Brian Crecente (@crecenteb) June 4, 2021
Today they announced Trump's return to Facebook just in time to wreak havoc on another presidential election.
https://t.co/5OpMIx7CGa
This still feels like a huge cop out to me... https://t.co/MzcXJpt1LG
— Nina Jankowicz (@wiczipedia) June 4, 2021
Facebook says trump will be banned for another year and a half. Not good enough. We demand it be permanent.
— Scott Dworkin (@funder) June 4, 2021
More from OB responses: FB to say whether it will do a full public accounting on its own of the events of Jan 6. But since the data is being turned over to academics a lot is likely to become public anyway. And it’s better if outsiders do it, IMO. https://t.co/DW1A9aNKTq
— Elizabeth Dwoskin (@lizzadwoskin) June 4, 2021
“Next time I’m in the White House”
— Andrew Feinberg (@AndrewFeinberg) June 4, 2021
I guess he means his August delusion? pic.twitter.com/xbInGn4YwK
When I reported Facebook to the US authorities, I received a permanent ban for whistleblowing.
— Christopher Wylie ?️? (@chrisinsilico) June 4, 2021
When Donald Trump incited a violent insurrection at Congress, he received a temporary two year ban that would let him back in time for the 2024 campaign.
This is all a PR exercise.
Facebook decides on two year ban for Trump, and says they’ll only reinstate him “if the risks to public safety has receded”
— Angry Staffer (@Angry_Staffer) June 4, 2021
Thoughts and prayers. ?♂️
The Oversight Board is encouraged that Facebook is adopting many of the Board’s policy recommendations in the case involving former US President Donald Trump. https://t.co/upP98Id5Uo
— Oversight Board (@OversightBoard) June 4, 2021
Twitter and Facebook have done more to penalize Trump than the government has.
— Ken Westin (@kwestin) June 4, 2021
Important read. Trump's reach benefited from the algorithmic acceleration and the built-in audience his social accounts gave him. If Facebook returns access to his account, he gets that megaphone back. https://t.co/6rm1yH8cZ3
— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) June 4, 2021
Pity you didn't do this about five years ago. https://t.co/5MOwHQ4tAd
— Kate 'two jags' Bevan (@katebevan) June 4, 2021
Some Facebook employees are angry with the Trump decision today. Some of their internal reactions:
— Ryan Mac? (@RMac18) June 4, 2021
"Two years for a coup, not bad."
"If this gets 2 years, what can one possibly do to get a lifetime ban?"
Read more on how they're reacting in our story:https://t.co/ToVuCx7QwP
Separately, the news comes after a significant part of yesterday’s internal FB Q&A was spent addressing leaks and how to find leakers.
— Ryan Mac? (@RMac18) June 4, 2021
Zuckerberg on the call: “I think over the last year there've been more leaks than I think all of us would have wanted.”
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— ADL (@ADL) June 4, 2021
Facebook announces former President Trump will remain suspended on the platform for a full two years -- until January 7, 2023.
A good step – but if a world leader’s incitement to violence against his own country’s democracy doesn’t constitute a permanent ban, what will? https://t.co/thv7xLIAQ3
Facebook comms is pushing an hour long recording between VP of Global Affairs Nick Clegg and the Brookings Institution to explain today’s Trump decision. Guess which company is a major Brookings donor? https://t.co/ezIZRyFPc3 pic.twitter.com/aY13sERqo9
— Ryan Mac? (@RMac18) June 4, 2021
No Facebook until after midterms at the earliest. https://t.co/HgBDfFE2Or
— Zach Haberman (@ZHaberman) June 4, 2021
Reminder that @OversightBoard is just a facebook committee. Marky Mark could have suspended Trump for as long as he wanted. The pomp and circumstance is supposed to make you think FB is accountable to anyone other than Mark and shareholders.
— melissa “cancel student debt” byrne (@mcbyrne) June 4, 2021
For all the endless hand wringing around rules, newsworthiness exemptions and oversight boards, Facebook's position re Trump has effectively been
— James Titcomb (@jamestitcomb) June 4, 2021
- Do nothing while he's the president
- Ban him when he's no longer the president
- Let him back on when he might be the president
There is a world where Trump is reinstated, immediately posts something like this, and is quickly suspended again or banned.
— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) June 4, 2021
But this becomes an exponentially harder call to enforce if it’s 2023 and he’s running for president! https://t.co/fBZNj3Nbjy
Facebook has upheld its ban of President Trump for the next two years. Regardless of your politics this should be chilling. We’ve effectively turned American big tech censorship into our version of China’s governmental censorship. https://t.co/Jbh0t0l0o5
— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) June 4, 2021
All told, Facebook likely very pleased with how Oversight Board concept has played out with Trump. The process came across as thorough and thoughtful -- and a two-year ban is a considerable punishment (even if some will say it doesn't go far enough).
— Dave Lee (@DaveLeeFT) June 4, 2021
In other words, in two years and one day he’ll be suspended again. And he’ll do it on purpose in order to start rallying the base with this particular narrative ahead of the next election… Good plan. https://t.co/NXRiJoYoVf
— M.G. Siegler (@mgsiegler) June 4, 2021
Trump gonna be so mad to learn that Facebook has said its suspension last for 2 years (past the midterms) at the least.
— Clara Jeffery (@ClaraJeffery) June 4, 2021
And he just killed his own blog as a way to spew about it. https://t.co/weMcN5YXNx
Every teacher and parent knows that a logical consequence is the most effective consequence.
— David Franz (@davidfranz) June 4, 2021
Ergo, this ban is perfect.
And now to choose the logical consequence for sedition.
How do we prevent this entity from unraveling democracy?#ONEV1 https://t.co/xMeWVshG9t
Facebook sets Trump ban at two years in response to Oversight Board ruling https://t.co/HGSzic9tfG
— ParanjoyGuhaThakurta (@paranjoygt) June 4, 2021
Modi on social media is often anodyne (though refreshingly not in election rallies) but Erdogan, Bolsonaro, Duterte, and some others would need to reconsider what they speak on Facebook. As would many BJP politicians lower down the food chain: https://t.co/5v4X90Q0FU
— saliltripathi (@saliltripathi) June 4, 2021
???Trump banned from Facebook for two years
— Sara Fischer (@sarafischer) June 4, 2021
We've got all the details on @axios: https://t.co/SRK2RDO6OA
BREAKING: Facebook said it will ban former President Trump from its platform for two years, and announced new policies for how it will handle speech from prominent politicians moving forward.https://t.co/N95kfGHS2W
— Axios (@axios) June 4, 2021
FACEBOOK: Trump Suspended for Two Years; Will Only Be Reinstated if ‘Conditions Permit’ https://t.co/zsC0hiAYw3
— AntifaBook.com (@JackPosobiec) June 4, 2021
"Given the gravity of the circumstances that led to Mr. Trump’s suspension, we believe his actions constituted a severe violation of our rules which merit the highest penalty available under the new enforcement protocols." https://t.co/NSzMfBK3kx
— Tim O'Brien (@TimOBrien) June 4, 2021
I like FB trying to establish parameters, but still seems to me an insurrection would = a permanent ban "In Response to Oversight Board, Trump Suspended for Two Years; Will Only Be Reinstated if Conditions Permit - About Facebook" https://t.co/SJ678Nwhsm
— Clint Watts (@selectedwisdom) June 4, 2021
Facebook agrees to do (some of) what Facebook -convened board suggests, declares victory of self-regulation. https://t.co/2TD9lOR2VH pic.twitter.com/sVOKxOXvZs
— Brandy Zadrozny (@BrandyZadrozny) June 4, 2021
Facebook's Trump decision: suspended for 2 years. Best of it is that they will then consult outside experts and consider his behavior and conditions at the time before deciding whether to reinstate. https://t.co/SPY2pQcufZ
— Jeff Jarvis (@jeffjarvis) June 4, 2021
Breaking: Trump is suspended from Facebook for two more years, and will only be reinstated if certain conditions are met. Per Facebook: https://t.co/brpAYR2PAk
— Laura Walker ⚖??? ??????? (@LauraWalkerKC) June 4, 2021
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Amazing. Facebook suspends trump from the network for two years, just in time to welcome him back in 2023https://t.co/2kPWQYehWP
— rat king (@MikeIsaac) June 4, 2021
Full announcement here:https://t.co/Ijr4ZRoKYQ
— Donie O'Sullivan (@donie) June 4, 2021
トランプ大統領はFacebookとInstagramを2年間使えないことになった。
— Tetsuro Miyatake (@tmiyatake1) June 5, 2021
同時にFacebookがようやくもう少し明確なルールを発表。https://t.co/TpGtL9QPjL pic.twitter.com/YcpQK1n6iI
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