Main thrust of Apple attorney questions this am: Getting Epic CEO to acknowledge that Epic used lots of Apple tools/tech/terms to get Fortnite into iOS. Idea is to knock down Epic’s argument that Apple doesn’t deserve the $$$$ it makes from App Store.

— Peter Kafka (@pkafka) May 4, 2021

I find this stuff so fascinating. Apple was clearly scrambling to stop Netflix from dropping IAP… https://t.co/p07ZM1ha45

— Chance Miller (@ChanceHMiller) May 5, 2021

Hmmm. Epic’s lawyer asks Sweeney, “If Apple told you the deal would only be with you and no other developers,” referencing a carve-out for lower App Store commission, “would you have accepted that deal?”

"Yes I would have,” Sweeney says.

— Nick Statt (@nickstatt) May 4, 2021

"Do we want to take any punitive measures" is all you need to know about Apple and the crap store. https://t.co/n57EZitjXb

— Jeff Johnson (@lapcatsoftware) May 5, 2021

Among the things Apple tossed out as ideas for Netflix to convince them to keep using IAP:

- Bundle offers (Netflix + Apple service)
- Today @ Apple US in-store events supporting Netflix launches
- Apple TV bundlehttps://t.co/tF5joq5aBn

— Chance Miller (@ChanceHMiller) May 5, 2021

Not surprising. Apple would prefer to market and highlight apps that support as many of their features and tools as possible. https://t.co/4PhAcsys3c

— John Wilson (@JohnWilson) May 5, 2021

Huh — Simon says Apple refused to let it prominently mention COVID-19 in an update that appeared in its app, because it worried the topic —including just mentioning lockdowns — would be “potentially triggering.” This was the day before it released its own COVID-19 screening app.

— Adi Robertson (@thedextriarchy) May 4, 2021

Blunt response from SVP of software Eddy Cue, who reports directly to Cook:

2013: "The reason we lost Safari on Windows is the same reason we are losing Safari on Mac. We didn't innovate or enhance Safari....We had an amazing start and then stopped innovating.... 2/3 pic.twitter.com/ichZVXMK2z

— Patrick McGee (@PatrickMcGee_) May 4, 2021

Former head of App Review, Phillip Shoemaker, was furious the fraudulent apps kept making it into the store: pic.twitter.com/0w6dQy6qrU

— Patrick McGee (@PatrickMcGee_) May 4, 2021

Just a sense that Sweeney wasn't prepared much or he didn't listen. Answer to

Epic lawyer: "If Apple had told you that it would offer you a deal and no other developers would you have accepted that deal?"

Sweeney: Yeah.

— Ian Sherr (@iansherr) May 4, 2021

Wright, now on redirect with Epic’s lawyer, asked what would happen if the rules applying to cloud gaming applied to video streaming services.

"Netflix wouldn’t exist today,” Wright says. Because every single tv show and movie on Netflix would have to be an individual app.

— Nick Statt (@nickstatt) May 5, 2021

Here’s my write up of @TimSweeneyEpic’s day two testimony in Epic v Apple.

Most consequential imo is Sweeney’s admission that Epic wants Fortnite to be a creator platform, and App Store fees would ruin that. https://t.co/kHyMZabIoT pic.twitter.com/MNIDK75HGi

— Nick Statt (@nickstatt) May 4, 2021

Day 2 of livetweeting the Apple/Epic trial starts in 15 minutes. Expecting more cross-examination of Epic CEO Tim Sweeney, plus witnesses from Nvidia and Xbox, and god willing better audio. Coverage of yesterday below: https://t.co/j3G9U1FJOj https://t.co/57rFWRifAx

— Adi Robertson (@thedextriarchy) May 4, 2021

Apple/Epic trial Day 3 starts in 30. We’ll hear more from Nvidia’s Aashish Patel, then Lori Wright of Xbox, Epic’s Andrew Grant and Thomas Ko — and then our first Apple exec, Matthew Fischer. Here’s what happened yesterday https://t.co/8PAM7FFZPE https://t.co/JbBaxIWK8P

— Adi Robertson (@thedextriarchy) May 5, 2021

Interesting point in this deck is that Apple was giving Netflix “more featuring than any other partner” in App Store editorial. That is, before Netflix dropped IAP and then Apple scrubbed them entirely. https://t.co/5BFRH7Y8Am

— Benjamin Mayo (@bzamayo) May 5, 2021

For Apple it’s a win if Nvidia is providing an amazing service through the Safari browser outside the App Store, obviously. “Has Apple done anything to stop Nvidia from offering GeForce Now on Safari?” lawyer asks. Patel says no.

— Adi Robertson (@thedextriarchy) May 4, 2021

Microsoft's feud with Apple over xCloud on iOS got a rival kicked from the App Store. Shadow disappeared last year, after Microsoft was trying to work out why other cloud gaming apps were not being blocked. Details here: https://t.co/LySpAyGrvl pic.twitter.com/SrzieTyJIW

— Tom Warren (@tomwarren) May 5, 2021

Tim Cook to Eddy Cue and Phil Schiller on an email from Tim Sweeney (from the looks of it) in 2015:

"Is this the guy that was at one of our rehearsals?" pic.twitter.com/EzOgwV2haY

— julia alexander (@loudmouthjulia) May 4, 2021

Right now in Epic vs Apple, questioning surrounds whether the iOS ecosystem competes with the Xbox ecosystem. Some good context on this from @GiladEdelman yesterday: https://t.co/QQfBr6TRxW

— Cecilia D'Anastasio (@cecianasta) May 5, 2021

One Question Will Probably Decide the Epic-Apple Lawsuit https://t.co/BGZSgZ9MjZ #tech #feedly

— Nicolas Babin (@Nicochan33) May 5, 2021

Hint: You've already known this for about nine months if you follow #VirtualLegality. :)

(It's the definition of the relevant market.)https://t.co/DnGTgK3LHf

— Richard Hoeg (@HoegLaw) May 5, 2021