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If there’s anything that Facebook has learned from its many years of cozying up to the Trump administration, it’s figuring out that shamelessness works. My latest for @nytopinion | Facebook’s Tone-Deaf Attack on Apple https://t.co/M3WDhGbLmK
— Kara Swisher (@karaswisher) December 18, 2020
The reason I tweet about Apple’s hypocrisy isn’t that I think they’re terrible, it’s bc I think we need to view this as a fight between two giant corps for dominance as opposed to for/against normal people’s interests. Apple is kicking FB in the junk for itself, not for you.
— parker (@pt) December 18, 2020
"Facebook is the master of the slow roll, dragging its feet to take corrective action when it makes mistakes," @karaswisher writes. https://t.co/MCTXRLNfx4
— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) December 18, 2020
Time will show that Facebook will once again be on the wrong side of history https://t.co/dyKMsGarrW
— hussein kanji (@hkanji) December 18, 2020
I shouldn't be surprised anymore but it is amazing that none of the press coverage I've read of Apple's iOS 14 changes re: advertising have managed to mention *at all* the single most salient fact of the situation.https://t.co/hv7K4M8Vif
— Brad Hill (@hillbrad) December 18, 2020
Apple spokeswoman: "You don't really have to deal with the Smart Case, if you so prefer, you can always buy two AirPods Max headphones and leave one at home and the other at work, school, your girlfriend's apartment and so on. It was designed with flexibility."
— Kontra (@counternotions) December 18, 2020
?Attn Aaron Sorkin: When you write 'Social Network 2," the Zuckerberg-Cook rivalry HAS to be a subplot. https://t.co/gPzeIUxj5g
— Andrew Wallenstein (@awallenstein) December 18, 2020
It's not that Apple requires developers to ask users if they consent to sharing data with 3rd parties.
— Brad Hill (@hillbrad) December 18, 2020
It's that Apple forbids developers from doing anything differently when users decline.
i dunno, the the "I'm a PC" stuff from apple should also be up there!
— Frank X. Shaw (@fxshaw) December 18, 2020
It's amusing to watch companies who used to be so pro-user-choice scream bloody murder about giving users a choice now that the default has changed. The choice mantra was always based on the premise that companies could get their way using dark patterns and buried disclosures. https://t.co/m9q8LnAaPN
— Arvind Narayanan (@random_walker) December 18, 2020
I don’t understand Facebook’s plan in picking a fight with Apple. It doesn’t matter that their point about small business is arguably true - Apple’s answer is an unanswerable sound bite and Facebook has no permission to speak on privacy.
— Benedict Evans (@benedictevans) December 18, 2020
My sincere argument is that those companies are running absolutely bottom of the barrel ads that are doing zero effective targeting because their volume is too small for anyone to optimize for them, and this change affects only big companies.
— Laurie Voss (@seldo) December 18, 2020
Still amazed at this blatant dishonesty https://t.co/tapb0BM9PD
— can (@can) December 18, 2020
They’re saying you can’t require a subscription if a user rejects personalization. The user can’t make that choice.
— Dan Kaminsky (@dakami) December 18, 2020
Yeah – Apple had quite a few indie devs lined up for their 15% rev share announecment
— Adrian Hon (@adrianhon) December 18, 2020
Privacy must be respected in building advertising tools, and we're focused on transparency and control. But privacy doesn't need to come at the expense of the livelihoods of small businesses and developers. (2/3)
— Adam Mosseri ? (@mosseri) December 16, 2020
uhhhh so my AirPods Max review is 3,837 words and will likely be around 30 minutes…
— Quinn Nelson (@SnazzyQ) December 18, 2020
The other great irony in all this is Facebook's use of print newspaper ads to spread its hypocritical message, rather than its own app which reaches about three orders of magnitude more people. https://t.co/N7bvv53EUw pic.twitter.com/JpK67oX2Ee
— Arvind Narayanan (@random_walker) December 18, 2020
IOS 14 will soon require every app to ask permission before taking any data. FB argues it needs to take all the data from every user to meet the needs of small business ... ignoring fact that users can still choose to give up data. https://t.co/wvHJhEWywt
— Roger McNamee (@Moonalice) December 18, 2020
When was the last time two top-five tech companies feuded as publicly as Facebook and Apple?
— Will Oremus (@WillOremus) December 18, 2020
Maybe Microsoft and Google during the "Scroogled" campaign?
Apple is just straight-up demanding that developers who monetize through the only meaningful channel that doesn't net them a 15-30% cut *must* offer users a free ride.
— Brad Hill (@hillbrad) December 18, 2020
And it really is a free ride in most cases.
What I find absolutely hilarious about this is how much I detest targeted ads. First off, it's 90% an ad for something I've already bought. Secondly, I like finding out about random things. It's how I picked up most of my hobbies. Give me completely non-targeted ads
— John Dietrich (@ampyourgrowth) December 18, 2020
One thing that we never talk much about in tech is consent. Scale and consent are often mutually exclusive. It is extraordinarily difficult to build moral products at scale because of this. https://t.co/Dw5aPSWvtR
— EJ Fox ? (@mrejfox) December 18, 2020
Apps shouldn’t be able to track you without your knowledge and consent. It’s unsurprising that Facebook, a serial privacy abuser, is unhappy about Apple taking commonsense steps to protect consumer data. https://t.co/ysrRbdnbLJ
— Ron Wyden (@RonWyden) December 17, 2020
FB’s attack on Apple’s iOS 14 opt in privacy controls is cynical and insulting. FB has undermined democracy and pandemic response, as well as civil rights of the powerless — in pursuit of profit. Now wants us to believe that Apple’s genuine commitment to privacy is the problem.
— Roger McNamee (@Moonalice) December 18, 2020
Apple's policy is really specific: it prevents advertisers from tracking users between apps without consent. How does that help a coffee shop or a burger place, the two business highlighted by Facebook in its press conference?
— alex hern (@alexhern) December 18, 2020
Newspaper ads aim at politicians, and maybe Facebook is trying to position Apple is a monopolist rather than a consumer protector - but this seems to play perfectly into Apple’s hands.
— Benedict Evans (@benedictevans) December 18, 2020
A thoroughly informative take on what Facebook is fighting Apple about. https://t.co/E1OIzVnQjd
— Dan Kaminsky (@dakami) December 18, 2020
I appreciate your sincerity, but I don’t agree. From local news to your friend’s small business selling tea (I know two people doing this!), there will be casualties. Targeting makes them possible at all.
— parker (@pt) December 18, 2020
We 100% agree this won’t put the big companies out of business.
The crux of Facebook’s argument is “we know what’s good for users better than them” or even “users are too dumb to appreciate how tracking them is good for them”.
— can (@can) December 18, 2020
Hard yes https://t.co/LCEcb3CuMC
— Tom Arnold (@TomArnold) December 18, 2020
You could say a million bad things about Facebook but here it is, an executive simply veiling their fear of transparency behind a disingenuous plea.
— can (@can) December 18, 2020
No, "Share your data to enable meaningful ads, or pay $15 to use this app," no "Enable personalized advertising to unlock premium features," not even, "You'll see more, less valuable, ads if you decline." That would be user choice.
— Brad Hill (@hillbrad) December 18, 2020
“users prefer targeted ads” says the company that offers no meaningful way to opt out
— shoshana wodinsky (@swodinsky) December 18, 2020
anyone who thinks Mosseri cares about users and not laser focused on feeding corporate beast than say an Andrew Bosworth, his tweets vs Apple proved otherwise. He’s head of Instagram yet misleading public. You can have personalized ads without tracking users across their apps. https://t.co/x0S4h5cdAF
— Jason Kint (@jason_kint) December 18, 2020
something under-discussed about facebook's attack on apple is that the company hasn't, as best I can tell, highlighted a single small business that would be affected by the actual policy they're opposing
— alex hern (@alexhern) December 18, 2020
This. This. This. All of this. @karaswisher nails the nuance of Facebook’s faux outrage campaign this week as they try to stop Apple’s privacy improvements. ?? https://t.co/Vb5uDX2oAy
— Jason Kint (@jason_kint) December 18, 2020
Apple's iOS14 changes are literally transparency and control!
— Justin Brookman (@JustinBrookman) December 18, 2020
Facebook is concerned that they're *too much* transparency and control, and that they're actually effective instead of FB's own performative and unusable privacy settings. https://t.co/nCR8x4n2GX
It does not take a psychologist to understand that Mark Zuckerberg believes might makes right, writes @karaswisher. https://t.co/qRDHYtiz2L
— New York Times Opinion (@nytopinion) December 18, 2020
When a company does the right thing for its users, EFF will stand with it, just as we will come down hard on companies that do the wrong thing.
— EFF (@EFF) December 18, 2020
Here, Apple is right and Facebook is wrong. https://t.co/eDcFdAthtv
lmao @ the number of times adtech ppl p much told me this exact phrase (on panels / in interviews etc) https://t.co/7qWwTonOOU
— shoshana wodinsky (@swodinsky) December 18, 2020
Brilliant, brilliant piece ---- Facebook’s Tone-Deaf Attack on Apple https://t.co/NxVpAMYTRZ
— Deborah Beale (@MrsTad) December 19, 2020
"These tech companies have too much power. And no matter how you slice it, they are all in dire need of government regulation." https://t.co/aAoZ2HxNZn
— Massimo Pigliucci (@mpigliucci) December 19, 2020
"Apple, pointing out Facebook’s data gluttony, and Facebook, in turn, noting Apple’s hegemony over mobile, make one thing clear: These tech companies have too much power. And no matter how you slice it, they are all in dire need of government regulation" https://t.co/ezLTTIrNrd
— Mark Andrejevic (@MarkAndrejevic) December 19, 2020
“@Facebook, on the other hand, knows only one move: Exert power through money and influence, a strategy that’s undergirded by Mr. #Zuckerberg’s remarkable streak of stubbornness in the face of persistent criticism.” https://t.co/8DN0XpGKHP by @karaswisher
— Stratos Safioleas (@stratosathens) December 19, 2020
Facebook’s Tone-Deaf Attack on Apple
— Nouriel Roubini (@Nouriel) December 19, 2020
The company declared in newspaper ads that it was “standing up to Apple.” It’s a desperate ploy that’s unlikely to work https://t.co/KGtflylW3c
When a company does the right thing for its users, EFF will stand with it, just as we will come down hard on companies that do the wrong thing.
— EFF (@EFF) December 18, 2020
Here, Apple is right and Facebook is wrong. https://t.co/eDcFdAthtv
This company is just plain weird and ridiculous. Urgh. So glad to have left them in the dust many years ago. https://t.co/ShgnwhNKER
— K. — We’re hiring @heyhomehero! ? (@_kejk) December 19, 2020
Facebook’s Laughable Campaign Against Apple Is Really Against Users and Small Businesses https://t.co/CfA5ZgqMg9 via @eff
— Adam Schwartz (@Adam_D_Schwartz) December 18, 2020
facebookだる
— AppleJuice (@aJuic3_iPadOS) December 20, 2020
アプリ外でも追跡を行って広告等を個人に最適化できるメリットは大きいけど、ユーザーに選択を与えるのは至極まっとうな判断だろhttps://t.co/usj5ggLqAv
hFacebook now warning users about impacts on ads due to new iOS 14 privacy features - 9to5Mac https://t.co/WozNpATizK
— MARCIANOTECH (@MARCIANOPHONE) December 20, 2020
Facebook은 자사 광고 플랫폼 관리 프로그램에서도 애플 탄압이라는 프레임 주입을 계속하고 있어. https://t.co/7XGx88I5IW
— YUKI.N (@nagato708) December 20, 2020
'#Facebook has learned from its many years of cozying up to the Trump administration, ...that shamelessness works.' #MarkZuckerberg @Facebook's Tone-Deaf Attack on @Apple https://t.co/VbWU4BBSzG
— Mehdi Semati (@m_semati) December 19, 2020
"Apple, pointing out Facebook’s data gluttony, and Facebook, in turn, noting Apple’s hegemony over mobile, make one thing clear: These tech companies have too much power". https://t.co/PrDbZhlFqW @nytopinion
— beppe severgnini (@beppesevergnini) December 19, 2020
Get the popcorn. This is going to be fun.https://t.co/NLlbmLErlg
— Tina Eliassi (@tinaeliassi) December 19, 2020
‘Facebook’s Tone-Deaf Attack on Apple’
— Kontra (@counternotions) December 19, 2020
(Yes, but what about the butterfly keyboard, the missing on/off button on AirPods Max, and the 16GB RAM limit on M1 chips?! Apple is no saint.)
(Extremism in bothsidesism is no vice at NYTimes.) https://t.co/IM9RJrPXqf
The @EFF has posted a response to @facebook’s complaint against @Apple for daring to allow customers their choice in protecting their own privacy.
— Henry Ferlauto (@HTFIII) December 20, 2020
In a word, their complaint is laughable.https://t.co/mTbGDt7hx5
Facebook claims that this change from Apple will hurt small businesses who benefit from access to targeted advertising services, but Facebook is not telling you the whole story. https://t.co/eDcFdAthtv
— EFF (@EFF) December 19, 2020