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A deal where Oracle takes over hosting without source code and significant operational changes would not address any of the legitimate concerns about TikTok, and the White House accepting such a deal would demonstrate that this exercise was pure grift. https://t.co/3kpwqnEYol— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) September 13, 2020
Looks like TikTok’s future in the US is safe. @WSJ reporting that Oracle got the winning bid for @tiktok_us’ operations.— Omid Scobie (@scobie) September 14, 2020
Coincidence that they were the only bidder with a Trump-supporting CEO (who held a huge fundraiser for the US President last year)?https://t.co/2cHve3GZlC
TikTok: Oracle currently leader in the clubhouse.— Dan Primack (@danprimack) September 13, 2020
Particularly if BD won't sell the algo -- MSFT could consider it still, but goes against all the priorities it stated. Oracle could still make this work, assuming it can get WH buy-in ("Mr. President. Larry Ellison is on line 2")
Total disagreement on my timeline right now as to whether the value of TikTok is 100 percent in its algorithm, or 100 percent in its user base. Where do you land? (I'm more and more convinced that it's the user base) [POLL]— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) September 13, 2020
As an aside on the MSFT/ORCL/TikTok...— Dan Primack (@danprimack) September 13, 2020
Yes, Walmart has been working w/ Microsoft. But there's no reason to think Walmart wouldn't at least consider working w/ Oracle, were Oracle to win out.
That's because the Chinese government has ruled this app is a protected national security asset. The Chinese government is taking EVERY face,loaded onto Tic-Tok,and storing them,in the biggest facial recognition database,on the planet. This should end any debate about Tic-Tok,IMO https://t.co/vdyA1RIIBu— #ZeroFucksGiven (@JedGarren) September 13, 2020
To be frank, the recommendation algo in TikTok is most likely a borrowed version of an existing recommendation algo and no better than YouTube or Bing.— Cory Trese (@corytrese) September 13, 2020
TikTok value is in DAU, not algo. TikTok is commodity software with good market penetration.
i dont know enough about tikbtok to know, but what does it do differently? must be something if they wont share it "TikTok's recommendation algorithm"— ComicfromPlanet9 (@Geopilot) September 13, 2020
FYI TikTok signed a three year cloud services deal with Google in May of 2019 for $800m. Whither that? Who knows?— Kara Swisher (@karaswisher) September 13, 2020
Sure, it seems unusual to have Oracle run TikTok. But who will have the last laugh when the TikTok influencers start recommending HR and Finance systems in all their videos.— Aaron Levie (@levie) September 14, 2020
Hey @carlquintanilla remember when you were surprised when I said a few weeks ago not to count @Oracle out of the @tiktok_us deal? Don’t be. They have less backbone (Bytedance likes), more need (cloud biz) & more Trumpness, despite a much more technically superior @Microsoft.— Kara Swisher (@karaswisher) September 13, 2020
As an aside: It remains unclear exactly what "the algo" is, in reference to what China won't let BD sell. It sounds simple, but it isn't.— Dan Primack (@danprimack) September 13, 2020
I don’t get the algo argument. (so if you’re one of those people, tell me!)— Farhad Manjoo (@fmanjoo) September 13, 2020
The whole point of TikTok is getting you videos you'll love without forcing you to curate a follow list. (Cue Twitter's new and casual user quest). That's what differentiates it from the competition and gives it a fighting chance vs. FB Reels.— Alex Kantrowitz (@Kantrowitz) September 13, 2020
“We would have made significant changes to ensure the service met the highest standards for security, privacy, online safety, and combating disinformation" is an attempt to poison the well against an Oracle deal where they only take over hosting. And MSFT is right to do so. https://t.co/221RLbdEAY— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) September 13, 2020
TikTok only willing to sell its brand & user base in the U.S. and not the algorithms. If no potential buyers want that deal then it’ll gladly shut down U.S. operations on Tuesday.— Dare Obasanjo (@Carnage4Life) September 13, 2020
The idea that Trump could just seize such a valuable asset now disproven.https://t.co/Noj15Z4BWJ
Breaking: Microsoft's bid to buy TikTok US has been rejected by TikTok's parent company ByteDance.— Jo Ling Kent (@jolingkent) September 13, 2020
"We are confident our proposal would have been good for TikTok’s users, while protecting national security interests."
Full statement: https://t.co/HA7gH1zaXt
Wild thing about TikTok sale is that we might end up with— James Titcomb (@jamestitcomb) September 13, 2020
-American TikTok owned by Oracle/Microsoft
-Rest Of World TikTok owned by ByteDance
And those two things will exist simultaneously and both be called TikTok but be on different product trajectories and just not interact?
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Amazing how quickly patronage economics have become the norm in U.S.: “Oracle has important ties to Trump’s admin. Catz was a member of...Trump’s transition team...Ellison hosted a fundraising event for Trump’s...campaign at one of his California homes.” https://t.co/bsWDJbQcbf— Jasmin Mujanović (@JasminMuj) September 14, 2020
ByteDance abandoned the sale of TikTok in the United States in pursuit of a partnership with Oracle that it hopes will spare it a U.S. ban while appeasing China's government, according to sources https://t.co/tqQCcU5I2C by @DEER_ECHO_ @GregRoumeliotis $ORCL pic.twitter.com/1MiO7EUx8d— Reuters Business (@ReutersBiz) September 14, 2020
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