september 11th for a new generation.... https://t.co/b2U0bdFZhX

— ? (@turtlekiosk) September 10, 2020

Here goes any chance iFixit implements 'Sign in with Apple'. Too risky. Tying authentication with politics is a terrible move. https://t.co/UNg7llQaTU

— Kyle Wiens (@kwiens) September 10, 2020

So... don’t get into a fight with Apple or they will not only kick you out of the store, but will also mess with your existing customers.

That does not really make me want to implement “Sign In with Apple” in my apps. https://t.co/E1xtTYZNuk

— Niels Leenheer (@html5test) September 9, 2020

Apple is breaking its Single Sign-On functionality for Epic Games' iOS titles on Friday, September 11th https://t.co/4g0HNCRMTV

— Eric Seufert (@eric_seufert) September 9, 2020

Epic Games accounts won’t be able to use Apple’s sign-in system as soon as September 11th https://t.co/mq3ncJZ0WG pic.twitter.com/zVS1aw54Il

— The Verge (@verge) September 10, 2020

Epic Games accounts won’t be able to use Apple’s sign-in system as soon as September 11th https://t.co/u9Y8OWzOxY pic.twitter.com/SoKUk7rUg1

— The Verge (@verge) September 9, 2020

It may simply be a function of Apple winding down that account. Plausible to me Apple didn't consider this scenario when they created the backend. Without verified dev accounts can sign-in with Apple work? Serious question.

— joel richards (@joeljrichards) September 9, 2020

I wish I could give Apple the key to my car and my credit card too. Ya know, so they can protect me. https://t.co/iR3GmdfHiJ

— Evan Bacon (@Baconbrix) September 9, 2020

This is an abusive action that harms users.

First Apple mandates use of their sign-in option. Now they hold your users hostage if you don’t want to use their store & pay them 30%.

Users suffer in the end & will be stranded from their accounts & anything they paid for. https://t.co/iigYkunebP

— Claire Novotny (@clairernovotny) September 9, 2020

well, until recently, 7% went to Apple's affiliate program, and I guess 23% went to Apple. Apple reclaimed that 7% when they shut down the app affiliate links a couple years ago

— Steve Troughton-Smith (@stroughtonsmith) September 9, 2020

AmI the only who thinks this spat is dumb? https://t.co/4cL2ipHLuM

— Ron Miller (@ron_miller) September 9, 2020

This seems pretty stupid. As a user, I started adding this feature across apps thinking it was secure and painless. If any future app can just have it removed, then it defeats the purpose of migrating to Apple Sign In! https://t.co/kafS1Y3PZA

— Devin (@DevinKofsky) September 9, 2020

Petty, surely will make companies even less likely to implement Sign In with Apple. https://t.co/5HCfEYbswZ

— Paul Haddad (@tapbot_paul) September 9, 2020

For an identity provider service, this is certainly not the very best move @Apple could have made...

I wonder how soon Epic Games was aware of that one, Apple is within their rights to do it, but this literally only hurts their users. https://t.co/2g623uKKLK

— Longhorn (@never_released) September 9, 2020

I mean maybe Apple’s leadership is so vindictive, so blinded by anger at Epic, that they’re making decisions that hurt their own users and the reputation of Apple’s own services. It’s possible. But it strikes me as out of character.

— John Gruber (@gruber) September 9, 2020

Presumably they're just posturing for the court, but if Apple truly believes the fight over the App Store's distribution and payment monopoly is a "basic disagreement over money," then they've lost all sight of the tech industry's founding principles.https://t.co/349RHLqKYa

— Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic) September 9, 2020

They can, they just can’t have Sign in with Facebook/Twitter/Google without having the Apple one.

— Paul Haddad (@tapbot_paul) September 9, 2020

Apple ending „Sign in with Apple“ support for Epic Games is making the whole service look EXTREMELY bad. NEVER shut down a service others depend on for LOGIN. I don’t care why, just don’t. Developers TRUST that this doesn’t ever happen.

— Gernot (@Gernot) September 9, 2020

Super shitty move on Apples part if real. https://t.co/JiIfdpMiGv

— can duruk (@can) September 10, 2020

Agreed. But this also reads very victimy.

If Epic breaks App Store rules, gets their app and developer account pulled, and the lack of a dev account breaks Sign-in With Apple, yet they’ve been told they can get it all back any time with a simple reversion, that’s on them? https://t.co/pVnGIlgAzh

— Rene Ritchie (@reneritchie) September 9, 2020

it's showing an intention to refuse any compromise. Epic picked a fight, Apple's willing to scorch Epic's ground rather than find a middle ground solution.

(not saying Apple's right. But Epic picked a fight they likely now regret)

— Chuq "To Live in Uninteresting Times" Von Rospach (@chuq) September 9, 2020

RIP https://t.co/LrQAinfG3f

— Happy Power (@HappyPower) September 9, 2020

This is the reason why single sign on should NOT rely on an external server (be it Apple, Facebook etc) but use http://localhost/auth with user-derived key that cannot be seized or disabled.

That’s the only healthy long term auth method. That’s what I proposed with SecureLogin https://t.co/p11iyTd1jP

— Egor Homakov (@homakov) September 9, 2020

Sign in with Apple (mostly the anonymous part) was a good idea but with this level of commitment to keep it running in the future for all your apps, it's setting a big risk for your accounts using those credentials ? https://t.co/Mm2FJ4eZ4f

— Maximiliano Firtman (@firt) September 9, 2020

(a) That’s not obvious. Epic’s developer account has already been terminated, but Sign In With Apple still works with Fortnite today.

(b) If it’s the inevitable result of the terminated developer account, then Epic’s description of what is going on is false.

— John Gruber (@gruber) September 9, 2020

“How to relay anonymized log-in credentials when the dev deliberately gets themselves ejected from the store and there’s no longer a trust certificate in place” is an edge-case I’m guessing Apple failed to consider?

(Doing it regardless of trust would be a huge attack vector?) https://t.co/qGkfQ1HR1Q

— Rene Ritchie (@reneritchie) September 9, 2020

I don't know the details of Sign In with Apple, but Apple's docs suggest it requires usage of the developer portal and certificate system. In which case, they'd have no way to access that or renew certs. Example of the outsized amount of power Apple has in the dev relationship pic.twitter.com/OSITK1CIPb

— Steve Troughton-Smith (@stroughtonsmith) September 9, 2020

Add one more thing to the long list of reasons to avoid implementing Sign In with Apple: They can just take it away from you whenever they feel like it. https://t.co/3NJkWm4Rhw

— Eli Hodapp (@hodapp) September 9, 2020

This is a staggeringly bad idea from Apple. If it’s technical necessity due to fallout from the whole situation, then it’s a system that needs fixing ASAP. It punishes users, not Epic, and makes using Sign In With Apple an unpredictable risk.https://t.co/y7xnCTmdN6

— Matthew Bolton (@matthewbbolton) September 9, 2020

Lesson: Don’t use “Sign In with Apple” unless you want Apple to be able to remotely kill all your user accounts… https://t.co/jY8f2X1Yan

— Riles ? (@rileytestut) September 9, 2020

If true, this is a user-hostile choice by Apple. It would penalize Fortnite players far more than Epic. It also would harm the reputation of Sign In With Apple as something developers should trust.

Let’s see on the “if true” part. I don’t take Epic’s word for this at face value. https://t.co/QZFgsXSLTx

— John Gruber (@gruber) September 9, 2020

Apple will no longer allow users to sign into Fortnite using “Sign In with Apple” as soon as September 11, 2020. If you used “Sign In with Apple”, please make sure your email and password are up to date. https://t.co/T0Rq0tfrR7

— Fortnite Status (@FortniteStatus) September 9, 2020

I used to think "Sign in with Apple" is a really awesome feature for everyone. https://t.co/sWRbqdI7sW

— Naoki Hiroshima (@N) September 9, 2020

Was late 90s Microsoft worse than 20s Apple?

— Paul Haddad (@tapbot_paul) September 9, 2020

Apple is really shooting themselves in the foot here, just to spite someone…

They're NEVER going to fully recover from this battle, not in the next 20 years at least. Their new reputation for being a petty, spiteful bully is basically set in stone at this point. https://t.co/6HlzBPgsHQ

— Tanner B ?? (@NSExceptional) September 9, 2020

Well, this wasn't supposed to happen.

The "Announce-The-Downtime-Inator" is a complete failure. https://t.co/N50QZgZaOc

— Shiina (@RealShiina) September 9, 2020

Have to say that it’s particularly galling the government needs to break the law because of ‘unforeseen’ problems with the Northern Ireland Protocol when some of us published detailed articles on those problems for two solid years

— Jonathan Lis (@jonlis1) September 9, 2020

This is one of those issues that eventually comes up with every OAuth system — you inevitably have to rely on the good will of the other data providers your own system must connect with.

— Nathan Lawrence ? (@NathanBLawrence) September 9, 2020

Or maybe there’s some technical limitation where SIWA simply cannot continue working with a revoked Apple developer account? But if that’s the case, how is SIWA still working today for Fortnite, even though Epic’s dev account has already been revoked?

— John Gruber (@gruber) September 9, 2020

Apple will no longer allow users to sign into Epic Games accounts using “Sign In with Apple” as soon as September 11, 2020. If you used “Sign In with Apple”, please make sure your email and password are up to date. https://t.co/4XZX5g0eaf

— Epic Games Store (@EpicGames) September 9, 2020

“But it’s Epic’s fault for breaking the rules!”

If you only see it as Epic Is Bad, you conveniently ignore real issues with Apple’s platform. Do users appreciate SIWA’s convenience? Yes. Is it a poorly documented feature forced upon all apps with existing social login? Also yes. https://t.co/lMU805kx5o

— Adam Demasi (@hbkirb) September 9, 2020

They poked the bear and now the bear is biting back. https://t.co/rxylRiDYiE

— Ryan Ford (@TheRyanFord) September 9, 2020

The only way Apple could look more like a bully at this point is if they started literally stuffing Fortnite players in lockers. https://t.co/aNZi4s65gn

— Ryan C. Gordon (@icculus) September 10, 2020

If nothing else this whole battle between Epic and Apple has been really interesting watching Apple ruthlessly weaponize all the technologies that they spend all of WWDC talking developers into becoming totally reliant on.

— Eli Hodapp (@hodapp) September 9, 2020

애플, 9/11 부로 에픽게임즈의 계정 로그인 시 [애플 아이디로 로그인] 불허, 금요일 이전 이메일/비밀번호 업데이트 필요

Epic says Apple's disabling 'Sign in with Apple' for Fortnite soon | iMore https://t.co/ppu1OEH7p8

— lunamoth (@lunamoth) September 10, 2020

Epic says Apple's disabling 'Sign in with Apple' for Fortnite soon https://t.co/rUKi5ae1ah

— iMore (@iMore) September 9, 2020

Apple: “We design Apple products to protect your privacy and give you control over your information.” Also Apple: We will delete the privacy-preserving authentication we provided you for a game to punish that game’s developer. https://t.co/evhOkPwhER

— Rob Pegoraro (@robpegoraro) September 10, 2020