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Any backlash against #parents getting help for distance learning is ingrained with the status quo - a mommy track that punishes mostly female parenting. Change that: give everyone the #PTO, telework, and mental wellness space to care for self and family. https://t.co/1axb8UjlIm
— Christine Pelosi (@sfpelosi) September 6, 2020
This is why the ultimate aim of “family policy” should be to separate family considerations from employment to greatest extent possible. https://t.co/RNm8gJr9IR
— Marshall Steinbaum ? (@Econ_Marshall) September 5, 2020
Yeah I wish people would get this. You can be flexible to employees with kids at home but don’t then turn around and ask me to do their work. https://t.co/NE5M91EdGU
— Obsidian Blue (@obsidian_blue) September 6, 2020
“It’s not fair” — 3 year olds and tech bros. https://t.co/BSQNF0sLRv
— Dave Konopka (@davekonopka) September 5, 2020
Quite an interesting article. The idea that taking time off to look after children is some kind of holiday is funny to put it mildly https://t.co/peOrZPWVam
— tyro (@DoubleEph) September 6, 2020
Some employees without children say that they feel underappreciated, and that they are being asked to shoulder a heavier workload. Parents are frustrated that their childless co-workers don’t understand how hard it is to balance work and child care https://t.co/ivzD760zDV
— Ahmed Al Omran (@ahmed) September 6, 2020
If you never have had a child (or can’t or have lost one) I can see having a hard time with these policies. But what the complainers are failing to understand is that these policies are intended for the kids involved and *not* to give the parents a break https://t.co/qaceUHoeD3
— Josh Elman (@joshelman) September 6, 2020
Just a reminder that not everyone who is childless is childless by choice. https://t.co/Mb25xq5PVe
— Jordan Davidson (@JA_Davids) September 5, 2020
lol get rekt childless employees https://t.co/IdfhHiGJdo
— Sonny Bunch (@SonnyBunch) September 6, 2020
And it really is difficult. 3 months of leave is basically somebody quitting and getting rehired. You have to completely replace them and then work them back in just when the org has stabilized. Really hard when SrMgr/Directors take leave, but only way to be equitable.
— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) September 5, 2020
"Why are childless people being framed as the assholes?" Because the article describes instances where childless people are specifically cornering and publicly berating parents for caring for their kids, trying to edge them out of jobs during a recession. That's asshole behavior. pic.twitter.com/pbfClWEfR1
— Sady "They" Doyle (@sadydoyle) September 6, 2020
Is the implication here that Facebook *normally* requires a doctor’s note for sick days? https://t.co/gUktru8sJu pic.twitter.com/3N0nKEqRUv
— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) September 6, 2020
This is a really interesting story. Only thing that's missing is some employee debating having a child for the office perks... https://t.co/7Mo43CMPO6
— Joanna Stern (@JoannaStern) September 5, 2020
The takeaway is that tech companies suck, everyone should get more paid time off, childcare should be universal, and unions are essential. https://t.co/eJomoaOVK1
— Sarah Weinman (@sarahw) September 6, 2020
I just cannot handle the fact that these people are blaming their co-workers who are parents, rather than the companies they work for, for extra workload they shoulder. Childless people shouldn’t have to take that on! But...it’s not parents’ fault? It’s the companies’?? https://t.co/0Dt4Y36MAt
— Swapna Krishna (@skrishna) September 5, 2020
This fight has been raging since the beginning of the pandemic and it just gets so maddening. No-one is getting time off to relax or have fun, no-one wants to be in this situation, but the parents have two full-time jobs & the non-parents have one. https://t.co/tBzuuiuTPp
— Sady "They" Doyle (@sadydoyle) September 6, 2020
I find the Times story on parents vs non-parents at tech co’s esp interesting considering how long those places could safely ignore parents—remember when Apple’s new HQ had a 100K ft gym but no daycare?—something @pardesoteric touched on earlier this week https://t.co/S8Re2vOqST pic.twitter.com/EV2sVdt4ti
— Caitlin Kelly (@caitlin__kelly) September 5, 2020
We're happily child-free but whining because parents dealing with raising small humans need extra help is just selfishly dumb.
— Iain Thomson (@iainthomson) September 6, 2020
Working from home is hard on everyone, but I'm continually amazed at the parents on our street, and in our lives, for staying sane. More power to them. https://t.co/PLFzoWzcqU
I’ve been the childless employee who is given extra work to let those older than me enjoy their time with there family. At first it played towards my empathy but slowly it ate away at me. I clocked more hours & my ability to enjoy my life was being taken away. It was exploitation https://t.co/sMnmjDhq61
— Shivani Banfal (@shivanibanfal) September 5, 2020
Just go pop out some babies so you can also “enjoy” those same benefits ?♂️ https://t.co/hrAPIvbf2z
— Jake (@iamjakestream) September 5, 2020
More than ever before, Covid has created an enormous gulf between parents of young children and other people.
— Arindrajit Dube (@arindube) September 7, 2020
This gap in available work time is enormous and unprecedented.
And it's not going anyway anytime soon.https://t.co/AfBkbNjlPu
A powerful Google VP who is now the CEO of YouTube. (The Google child-care kerfuffle was one of my bigger Valleywag scoops, picked up by the NYT and drawing worldwide attention.)https://t.co/FRfoM5BSZn https://t.co/jXo9bcBKav
— Owen Thomas (@owenthomas) September 6, 2020
This anger is best directed at the federal government rather than your boss and coworkers. The federal government’s failure to contain this pandemic is why kids couldn’t go back to school and daycare. Childcare is vital to **all** companies. https://t.co/XKyPXpTkGh
— Hillary Dixler Canavan (@hillarydixler) September 5, 2020
I've felt the frustration of having to work holidays because "I don't have a family." But during a pandemic, it's selfish of kid-less workers to attack parents who are getting a little extra help. Juggling work/homeschool/caretaking is not "easy peasy" https://t.co/QpGcsJtIwm
— Ted Sullivan (@karterhol) September 6, 2020
Having unprotected sex should give anyone more benefits
— b (@BackwardsHatt) September 5, 2020
fr why is everyone in this country so bitter and selfish god damn https://t.co/EuAAI3c3TF
— Gina (@gina_scooter) September 5, 2020
Me telling parents of toddlers how during the pandemic I’ve studied winemaking, taken up tennis, cycling, and playing video games pic.twitter.com/CNYiGaNkDU
— joe (@JoePerticone) September 5, 2020
These benefits aren’t even really “time off” because there is no time off from parenting right now. It’s a whole second full time job. https://t.co/RB0chGimpE
— Heather Kelly (@heatherkelly) September 5, 2020
Imagine having a great salary w/ every perk you could ever ask for while people are being evicted & dying and losing loved ones all over the country & the feeling you choose is ...
— Jenée (@jdesmondharris) September 5, 2020
anger that your coworkers who are parents got a little bit of compassion
https://t.co/HbyL78RzkG
This is an issue? Empathy is fleeting, almost non-existent, in some areas of today's society. Support your colleagues, parents or not. Leaders need to recognize everyone experiences change differently, be flexible enough to implement policies that reflect that understanding https://t.co/9lP9iZSFpl
— Jeff Mangan (@jmangan) September 5, 2020
When the pandemic forced office and school closures, some companies offered more time off to parents. But as the impact of Covid drags on, some employees without kids are saying this is unfair. It's causing a rift at some companies, especially at Facebook https://t.co/NXdwYXI4OW
— Daisuke Wakabayashi (@daiwaka) September 5, 2020
Or...you could direct that churlishness at your boss, who should be hiring enough employees for everybody to have a decent work-life balance, instead of letting him put you against each other. https://t.co/SZ3HqEbctV
— Veronica Schanoes (@schanoes) September 5, 2020
Supporting parents to take care of kids is a ripoff only of those childless adults who were never children.https://t.co/FuLEHmCetG
— Keith Humphreys (@KeithNHumphreys) September 6, 2020
Big “Me-ternity Leave” Energy https://t.co/jVhmk9zoas
— Elizabeth! (@kikutowne) September 5, 2020
So, I do want to talk a little bit more about parenting discrimination and childfree stigma, because I feel like the conversation around this piece is getting stuck in a familiar place: https://t.co/tBzuuiuTPp
— Sady "They" Doyle (@sadydoyle) September 6, 2020
If you are a company raking it in, of course you should accommodate parents.
— Anand Giridharadas (@AnandWrites) September 7, 2020
But you don’t need to make non-parents work more. You could hire more people in a moment of staggering unemployment, right?
The problem here is plutocratic divide and conquer.https://t.co/KYjuWKfomI
One #Apple employee encountered frustrating resistance when asking for flex schedule. A manager responded that the employee was expected to work full time - or not at all - "unofficially." @iansherr on this very important topic for life under #COVIDー19. https://t.co/tFQvDDXAqX
— Connie Guglielmo (@techledes) September 6, 2020
The obvious solution here: Let aggrieved employees without kids have time off too, as long as they watch the kids of their fellow workers. See how long they think they’re getting the shaft https://t.co/fx0apq4ozu
— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) September 5, 2020
The deep lack of empathy on display in this story and in the comments is stunning. There’s a historic pandemic, people. Schools and daycare are shuttered or risky. Would you have the parenting workforce quit? Try a little tenderness. https://t.co/oWYpoNVU8l
— Ann Marie Lipinski (@AMLwhere) September 6, 2020
Man, I really don’t understand how some people don’t have more empathy for parents right now. The challenges they’re facing are epic and we all need them to succeed. We need them to be heroes. We should be rooting for them, boosting them, not dragging them. https://t.co/5Rd6m7lTCo
— Tony Fratto (@TonyFratto) September 6, 2020
Sorry, but if you don’t have kids (like me) it’s still your responsibility to support people who do. They’re raising the next generation of people who are gonna grow your food, pave your roads, fix your A/C and do that surgery you need to stay alive. https://t.co/1X8Jev0Bkc
— Matt Pearce ? (@mattdpearce) September 5, 2020
Very easy to say that the employees without kids are being churlish here, but being asked to do more work without more compensation because you don’t have kids is actually very unfair and possibly illegal and absolutely grounds for frustration. https://t.co/qOkzp3CiHc
— Jill Filipovic (@JillFilipovic) September 5, 2020
There are workdays I end up absolutely spent. I am healthy and don’t have kids.
— erin mccann | (@mccanner) September 5, 2020
The only thing I feel toward my coworkers who have kids, and therefore need or get a little extra help from the company, is absolute awe at how they are managing this year. https://t.co/uI9D7BCPju
I can’t get over this. People are just awful sometimes. https://t.co/xnGdUsBIlc
— Lisa Tozzi (@lisatozzi) September 5, 2020
Home schooling while working in exchange for more work (even a lot more work)? I think I know about a million working parents who would take that trade in a second.
— CeciliaKang (@ceciliakang) September 5, 2020
No one wins with this dispute. It's a shitty time people. For everyone (non parents too). https://t.co/hHvb4I0qIM
shocking thing here is how 3 months is seen as a long time. It’s not. I took 3x lots of 6months, working full time on either side, and that felt not enough. (I was lucky to be somewhere that promoted me whilst on parental leave rather than regarded it as a career disaster) https://t.co/JUe3j8D5Y9
— emily bell (@emilybell) September 6, 2020
Weird opinion: this is thinly veiled class resentment. People in tech (and, well, in SF in general) tend to have kids later and so a whole lot of young employees erroneously see this kind of thing as perks going to their wealthy bosses. https://t.co/7GGxCXPDlN
— Caroline McCarthy ? (@caro) September 6, 2020
A big divide is that parental status lines up with seniority and role at these companies. On the engineering side, I would estimate that the vast majority of Directors and VPs are parents of school-aged children and a slight majority of ICs are not.
— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) September 5, 2020
I have many thoughts on this. But most of them include words I’d rather not use on this family-friendly platform. https://t.co/J4cYJqVwIg
— Martin Austermuhle (@maustermuhle) September 6, 2020
What baffles me about this is that employees are so obsessed with work that, rather than attacking parents and the companies for "unfair" leave policies, they don't think to ask the companies to readjust their expectations of what can be done in 2020. https://t.co/JmBliRL8g1
— Maxim Cramer (@mennenia) September 6, 2020
My biggest regret in AD AF was my lack of flexibility for troops w/children. I was in my 20s-30s, double income, no kids, working 12+ hours a day, doing sprint triathlons. I was crushing it. But I had no empathy for others. I know we lost talent because of it. Don't be me. https://t.co/zCfAM5GApa
— Jacquelyn Schneider (@JackieGSchneid) September 6, 2020
I expect that there is also a gendered aspect, and that 70% of the upvotes are from young, male engineers. FB has a norm of aggressively pushing new dads to take the full leave benefits as it is the only way to make it ok for new moms. Young male eng only people I heard complain.
— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) September 5, 2020
Of the many deeply embarrassing and shameful attitudes expressed in this story, one thing jumps out: the same companies that claim to stand for “community” and “the global public square” are filled with people who can’t sympathize with their own colleagues https://t.co/dGmf5uVCVz
— Hamza Shaban (@hshaban) September 5, 2020
This is a direct result of a country that does not mandate a single day of paid maternity leave & 1/4 mothers go back to work 10 days after giving birth. Childcare is frightfully expensive.
— Ruchika T - Masks Save Lives (@rtulshyan) September 5, 2020
It’s a straight line argument—America never cared about parents. This isn’t surprising. https://t.co/jzeQLMcwze
The same old anti-maternity leave arguments dressed up for 2020. Parents with kids at home are drowning right now. Companies that don't adopt policies to accommodate the crisis will face a (primarily female) brain drain with massive long-term costs. https://t.co/CUyE2TqJkg
— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) September 6, 2020
Everyone needs a little extra compassion & tolerance at different times in their lives. Creating a society that demands peak performance at all times leaves no room for you to care for yourself, pets, parents, partners... https://t.co/URWgmqlYPS
— Lia Haberman (@liahaberman) September 5, 2020
Resources for parents has a long history of conflict in the Valley. There was a famous blow-up at Google over their switch to in-house, super-high-end daycare that only pre-IPO employees could afford because it was the wish of a powerful VP.
— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) September 5, 2020
The comments on this piece are wild. Most of the people complaining about the unreasonable “entitlements” parents get (example: a six week maternity leave) are only bashing their coworkers, not, I don’t know, their management for saddling them with work. https://t.co/WDqrprWKXg
— Jessica Grose (@JessGrose) September 5, 2020
I could not agree more with Dai on the point that the pandemic affects us all in different ways. You might not have kids but might be caring for an elderly parent or a sick family member. There is a human call to action on #empathy and a business call to action on #transparency https://t.co/AnxWu2YoOr
— Carolina Milanesi (@caro_milanesi) September 5, 2020
If you are a company raking it in, of course you should accommodate parents.
— Anand Giridharadas (@AnandWrites) September 7, 2020
But you don’t need to make non-parents work more. You could hire more people in a moment of staggering unemployment, right?
The problem here is plutocratic divide and conquer.https://t.co/KYjuWKfomI
tbh i think this framing sucks. the issue isn’t that the non-parents are selfish or the parents are being given an unfair advantage. facebook can afford to give extra leave to parents and it can also afford to give it to non-parents...https://t.co/FNQbWunjbR
— susie (@banikarim) September 6, 2020
People without children complaining about their colleagues with children getting time off during the pandemic to care for their children is why I hate the corporate culture and capitalism. Like, what the fuck? https://t.co/k66NNNoUXp
— child putschist ? (@iFortknox) September 7, 2020
TIL Facebook literally has a spokesperson called "Bourgeois". The 2020 scriptwriters are just phoning it in now.https://t.co/krSxcqlEvK pic.twitter.com/r1t2uGIPe1
— John Burn-Murdoch (@jburnmurdoch) September 6, 2020
Very easy to say that the employees without kids are being churlish here, but being asked to do more work without more compensation because you don’t have kids is actually very unfair and possibly illegal and absolutely grounds for frustration. https://t.co/qOkzp3CiHc
— Jill Filipovic (@JillFilipovic) September 5, 2020
The same old anti-maternity leave arguments dressed up for 2020. Parents with kids at home are drowning right now. Companies that don't adopt policies to accommodate the crisis will face a (primarily female) brain drain with massive long-term costs. https://t.co/CUyE2TqJkg
— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) September 6, 2020
Senior leadership at all institutions — including #tech companies — need to lower expectations and make clear that 25%, 50%, 75%, etc. productivity is the new target and then act accordingly. Norms and behavior must be reset to match the pandemic reality. https://t.co/znf0souBss
— Eli Sugarman (@EliSugarman) September 5, 2020
Parents Got More Time Off. Then the Backlash Started. https://t.co/sWoYy71w4T
— Michael R. Strain (@MichaelRStrain) September 7, 2020
Should parents have the same workplace benefits as the childless?https://t.co/kBpAEEm24o
— Social Experiment (@MediaMK) September 7, 2020
부모가 아닌 페이스북 노동자들은 불공평 함을 본다 https://t.co/zRNJqyzRU6
— editoy (@editoy) September 8, 2020
I know it's a tough time for everyone but it's hard to sympathize with the non-parents mad that parents got extra benefits from tech companies during the pandemichttps://t.co/aCeBp4g9SV
— James Medlock (@jdcmedlock) September 7, 2020
It has to be just endless fun to be a tech journo at the NYT and get to nail tech companies to a wall no matter what they do. The pinnacle of trolling jobs. https://t.co/iAVKdTaGm8
— Zack Kanter (@zackkanter) September 7, 2020
Interesting piece about how non-parents at big tech companies are annoyed that they didn’t get the same time off benefits during the pandemic that people looking after children got https://t.co/VWrVLQLa23
— Joe Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) September 7, 2020
All of the biggest boys work at Facebook https://t.co/I9oiqnquXY pic.twitter.com/lDnhTT1R3H
— Myles Udland (@MylesUdland) September 8, 2020
New story with @daiwaka on the growing divide between parents and nonparents at tech companies. (You can probably guess my feelings on this one). https://t.co/utGbedDgsQ
— Sheera Frenkel (@sheeraf) September 5, 2020
Selfish people continue to be selfish. https://t.co/8ZU5zPQcdh
— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) September 7, 2020
Like everything tech-related from @nytimes, I'm sure this is a contrived narrative based on two screenshots cadged from some contractor.
— Antonio García Martínez (@antoniogm) September 7, 2020
But...it's an interesting moral dilemma between the residues of pro-family policy and the now-dominant individualism.https://t.co/giE42e1YI5
In today's NYT, there are two really interesting articles. One is about the apparent war between people with children and people without who feel they're being shorted in pandemic perks (flexwork, PTO, etc.) and there are FEELINGS. https://t.co/mxKCWRetwW
— Not THAT Karen, thank you (@karenbates) September 7, 2020