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On the one hand, you know Google Meet and most other solutions will of course collaborate with law enforcement and don't have the e2e crypto to stop it, right?
— Ben Adida (@benadida) June 3, 2020
On the other hand, Zoom, this is a serious unforced error right as you were beginning to crush it on security. https://t.co/JiQBGF7ZMk
Organised criminals famously, of course, don't tend to have money https://t.co/8rU9Z8uNzU
— Matt Lees (@Jam_sponge) June 3, 2020
Good points from Alex on encrypting video meetings. It's a really tough problem. https://t.co/QbNFx4sRzY
— @mikko (@mikko) June 3, 2020
Zoom Reports First Quarter Results for Fiscal Year 2021 - Zoom
— Dan Scheinman (@dscheinm) June 2, 2020
No company in history has achieved more in a quarter than @zoom_us I love all of the team who rallied and worked HARD to help all of our customers. Go Zoom. https://t.co/HXSHZZk8T7
i’d imagine someone with a “bad purpose” would just pay for the encrypted tier https://t.co/MVf8WS2vfB
— april glaser (@aprilaser) June 3, 2020
Not convinced – if call participants are worried about other participants behavior, they can still kick/mute them; for rare cases where a recording is needed as court evidence, then make e2ee an opt-out feature for such cases? https://t.co/6uUh2f8Zo6
— JP Aumasson (@veorq) June 3, 2020
Lots of companies are facing this balancing act, but as a paid enterprise product that has to offer E2EE as an option due to legitimate product needs, Zoom has a slightly different calculus.
— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) June 3, 2020
Looks like I will be pulling my @zoom_us account this week and migrating to a platform that isn't pushing #Fascism https://t.co/oiFCSV2fg3
— Jodi Koberinski (@JodiKoberinski) June 3, 2020
Incredible video achievement. Security challenges aside https://t.co/7jeM1uCn8G
— Brad Hunstable (@bhunstable) June 2, 2020
This is a hard balance. Zoom has been actively seeking input from civil liberties groups, academics, child safety advocates and law enforcement. Zoom hopes to find a common ground between these equities that does the most good for the most people.
— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) June 3, 2020
Long night for Alex, who says that when Zoom's CEO said this about encryption: "Free users for sure we don’t want to give that because we also want to work together with FBI, with local law enforcement in case some people use Zoom for a bad purpose,” he meant something different https://t.co/qciACJFge6
— Mike Masnick (@mmasnick) June 3, 2020
An important thread. I think Zoom can find a better compromise than what they've proposed so far, but worth understanding that there is a real harm they're trying to prevent. https://t.co/Ow9du78rXL
— Ben Adida (@benadida) June 3, 2020
E2E will be opt-in for a long time due to the fact that many Zoom meetings use cloud features, like bridging into PSTN and transcriptions. More here:https://t.co/m8YdOWxrh4
— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) June 3, 2020
Zoom says they won't encrypt free calls so Zoom can work more with the FBI. https://t.co/1lLinEhGlJ Well at least he is honest. Only paid customers will get encryption. Remember, Zoom is totally closed source. So you can't trust their encryption to begin with. pic.twitter.com/Oy9SnP9xiK
— nixCraft (@nixcraft) June 3, 2020
This is what's known as 'flushing good will down the toiler the minute you have marketshare'. Also known as 'the google method' https://t.co/KhsZLbox6M
— Don't Let The Bastards Get You (@da_667) June 3, 2020
who says tech isn't innovating any more? the "pay-or-the-cops-will-listen-to-your-calls" business model is a new one as far as I know https://t.co/k5fqZv2ATK
— cmwlsn (@cameronwilson) June 3, 2020
Well, @zoom_us had a blowout quarter. Analysts weren't even close as the company delivered $328 Million vs. $202 Million expected. Hard to imagine they didn't see it coming? Zoom revenue growth rockets in work-from-home age https://t.co/qZikzInUyT #Zoom $ZM #Earnings pic.twitter.com/r0AV8yxoI7
— Daniel Newman (@danielnewmanUV) June 2, 2020
A bad purpose like... organizing tactics to brutalize and frame peaceful protesters? https://t.co/mSyMZZ1EN1
— Kim McCauley (@lgbtqfc) June 3, 2020
Wow! $ZM/@zoom_us earnings off the chart. Remember that $zoom is taking share from airlines & hotels. Lots of $$$. Wrote about it 25+ years ago, & somehow still missed @ericsyuan as an investment. ?♂️ Original post: https://t.co/GGkj7hhrdA pic.twitter.com/YgD2GOKSR8
— Bill Gurley (@bgurley) June 2, 2020
Wow. I had defended Zoom's position in the past, and they've hired good people, including some friends, but... this is bullshit. Especially right now when law enforcement is literally violating the civil rights of so many, which is one reason WHY we NEED encryption. https://t.co/lsJ2aYaNni
— Mike Masnick (@mmasnick) June 3, 2020
Zoom’s CEO says he won’t encrypt free calls so Zoom can work more with law enforcement:
— Nico Grant (@NicoAGrant) June 3, 2020
“Free users for sure we don’t want to give that because we also want to work together with FBI, with local law enforcement in case some people use Zoom for a bad purpose,” Yuan said. $ZM
Zoom somehow living up to monstrous expectations:
— Chris Zeoli (@chriszeoli) June 2, 2020
- $328M of Q1'20 revenue (up 169%)
- ~$1.4B ending ARR
- 265,400 customers with >10 employees (up 354%)
- $259M of quarterly operating cash flow, over $1B annualized
- Expects ~$500M Q2 Rev, up >60% from Q1 https://t.co/o67V4jpZLV
$ZM
— Adventures in Financial Independence (@adventuresinfi) June 2, 2020
First quarter total revenue of $328.2 million, up 169% year-over-year
The popular vote was correct!
Incredible guidance.
Q2 Estimates $500Mhttps://t.co/EgZa03TnKKhttps://t.co/m4lhr9SPm3
Sigh... this is *not* the right way to go about encryption, @zoom_us. Security and privacy shouldn’t be a luxury feature. https://t.co/mH12onXZHQ
— Whitney Merrill (@wbm312) June 3, 2020
Nico, it's incorrect to say that free calls won't be encrypted and this turns out to be a really difficult balancing act between different kinds of harms. More details here:https://t.co/m8YdOWxrh4
— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) June 3, 2020
lmfao at every fucking one of you who threw yourselves in front of Zoom to protect it from "unfair criticism" about its security practices https://t.co/cpohEi9tsw
— concerted activity enthusiast (@BlueSpaceCanary) June 3, 2020
I've been amongst the biggest bulls on $ZM , yet
— Bill Tai (@KiteVC) June 2, 2020
The company outperformed on every metric this quarter. I expected top line growth but also much higher expenses to handle it
The P/L shows MUCH STRONGER resiliency (and cash flow) than even I expected. https://t.co/adUFKyivZB
So...if you don’t pay us, we’ll let the police listen to your calls?
— Sleeping Giants (@slpng_giants) June 3, 2020
Yeah, makes sense. https://t.co/euM9IapYcs
Today of all days is the perfect time for Zoom's CEO to issue such a statement…https://t.co/lF9pCtcGBZ https://t.co/5f5gxNnoVj
— hardmaru (@hardmaru) June 3, 2020
this dude is on a money train and he is doing everything he can to derail it https://t.co/IuOO2WHwri
— Ryan Mac ? (@RMac18) June 3, 2020
A thread in which Alex Stamos justifies @Zoom's plan to not provide e2e encryption except to paying customers by calling it a "safety issue".
— Nadim Kobeissi (@kaepora) June 3, 2020
His comments regarding "AES encryption" for free tier refer to fake encryption that won't survive MitM attacks. https://t.co/9qQElvepww
The part that tech CEOs are meant to say to their teams in private, Eric Yuan said out loud in public https://t.co/nywbi8xMHt
— Yuan Yang (@YuanfenYang) June 3, 2020
Yeah cool, so your product sucks and you're giving the FBI access to calls. https://t.co/sLgSl0VvH3
— Alex Kantrowitz (@Kantrowitz) June 3, 2020
Teleconference service that nobody had heard about a year
— Maki Scare-O (@sciencecomic) June 3, 2020
ago and only tolerated out of necessity gets a big head and goes full snitch. https://t.co/Fbyk6d7nIZ
Some facts on Zoom's current plans for E2E encryption, which are complicated by the product requirements for an enterprise conferencing product and some legitimate safety issues.
— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) June 3, 2020
The E2E design is available here:https://t.co/beLdeAwMSM
Huh I thought for sure @alexstamos would defend zoom e2e policy as a business decision, which i’d disagree with but understand. Instead his argument is the worn out “we only want good people to use e2e encryption, not bad people”. Sigh... https://t.co/XMvYSdmE4y
— Charlie Miller (@0xcharlie) June 3, 2020
I deleted my Zoom E2E thread despite being right and having 100RTs because in retrospect it’s a waste of everyone’s time on a night like this, and they’re not paying me to defend them. I got to keep that as a premium option.
— SwiftOnSecurity (@SwiftOnSecurity) June 3, 2020
Thanks for all the convo sorry I wasted your time.
Zoom apparently won't be encrypting free calls. For free end-to-end encrypted video calling there's Google Duo, Facebook's WhatsApp, Apple's FaceTime (iOS/macOS only), Signal. https://t.co/Ffwg6rumlI
— Peggy K (@PeggyKTC) June 3, 2020
Sounds to me from this headline like Zoom is putting a premium on privacy by making it a feature only for paid users. That's a bad look if I'm reading it correctly. https://t.co/nLMx3Yoq30
— Ingrid (@ingridlunden) June 3, 2020
Zoom CEO @ericsyuan who took $4B this year alone says the poors shouldn’t be trusted with security because they are criminals.
— rafael shimunov (@rafaelshimunov) June 3, 2020
But if you pay for zoom, they’ll protect you from unconstitutional looks into your conversations. https://t.co/BZdhbeYBPR
At least you can tell his hot take isn't vetted by PR lmao ? https://t.co/fq9sD82mk0
— Jane Manchun Wong (@wongmjane) June 3, 2020
must say i did not expect this sort of explosion of revenue from Zoom. 169% growth https://t.co/sQYFNlFm7V
— Jordan Novet (@jordannovet) June 2, 2020
Translation: Zoom will only be safe for rich people and big corporations https://t.co/eCIwfA6jt7
— Evan Greer (@evan_greer) June 3, 2020
Zoom is used by child sexual abuse offenders to stream abuse without leaving incriminating evidence on hard drives.
— Michael Salter (@mike_salter) June 3, 2020
This is publicly available knowledge and it is bizarre to me that the default setting of many tech journalists remains "encryption=privacy=good". https://t.co/YZpOkbFIwv
30x growth in usage and 169% growth in revenue. As I expected, it's pretty clear that most of Zoom's new users are free tier, but they're landing a lot of real, paying, enterprise customers too.
— TProphet (@TProphet) June 2, 2020
When your product name becomes a verb, it's a rocket ship. https://t.co/YTcoh39GW4
Zoom saw a huge increase in subscribers — and revenue — thanks to the pandemic https://t.co/EMrqoGncgc pic.twitter.com/fCaCSC6rkt
— The Verge (@verge) June 2, 2020
A very different kind of brand response from the Zoom CEO: “Free users, for sure, we don’t want to give them [end-to-end encryption]. Because we also want to work together with FBI and local law enforcement, in case some people use Zoom for bad purposes.” https://t.co/KOjoHyyUTJ
— Jesse Stommel (@Jessifer) June 3, 2020
DO NOT ORGANIZE ON ZOOM
— I;m a dog, I tweet about current events since 1312 (@UmbyUmbreon) June 3, 2020
REPEAT: DO NOT ORGANIZE ON ZOOM
THE FREE TIER IS UNENCRYPTED SPECIFICALLY TO AID LAW ENFORCEMENT
Source: https://t.co/2AzlFLm4UD#BlackLivesMatter
Zoom won't encrypt free calls, specifically so they can work with law enforcement:https://t.co/Wgep2fg1il
— Jamie Talbot (@majelbstoat) June 3, 2020
Zoom won’t encrypt free calls because it wants to comply with law enforcement (story by @Indianidle) https://t.co/wICF4dZP0B
— TNW (@thenextweb) June 3, 2020
Zoom thinks law enforcement should get access to your calls (unless you pay) https://t.co/TFipr2gZCY
— Prof. Tricia Wood (@pkbwood) June 3, 2020
“Free users for sure we don’t want to give that because we also want to work together with FBI, with local law enforcement in case some people use Zoom for a bad purpose,” said Yuan CEO of @zoom_us https://t.co/5Uc1FuIQVC
— Jessie (@jessiedotjs) June 3, 2020
Zoom security: Here's how Germany got its wires crossed over video-chat privacy https://t.co/WXMFHOqaie
— Antonio Santos (@AkwyZ) June 3, 2020
Zoom, 2020년 1분기 매출, 169% 성장한 3.28억 달러 기록
— Wan Ki Choi (@wkchoi) June 2, 2020
- 연반복매출(ARR), 14억 달러
- 10명 이상 직원 기업 고객 256400개
- 분기 현금 자금 2.59억 달러, 연 단위 10억 달러 이상
- 2분기 매출 전망 약 5억 달러
- 이는 1분기보다 60% 이상 성장하는 것 https://t.co/j3uZQ85wqw
I've been amongst the biggest bulls on $ZM , yet
— Bill Tai (@KiteVC) June 2, 2020
The company outperformed on every metric this quarter. I expected top line growth but also much higher expenses to handle it
The P/L shows MUCH STRONGER resiliency (and cash flow) than even I expected. https://t.co/adUFKyivZB
Zoom四半期発表
— ktamura (@tamuramble) June 2, 2020
- 2月-4月四半期売上3億2800万米ドル→年成長169％
- 年間10万米ドル以上の顧客数90％増加→エンプラも順調
- 10名以上の顧客企業数26万5400社→年成長354％
- 今四半期売上予想5億米ドル
- FY21年間売上予想18億米ドル
- 10万校以上がZoomを利用https://t.co/O3emIyudor
Good question!https://t.co/R43aYDsL8z
— Ryan Reeves (@investing_city) June 2, 2020
You can just type in "ZM investor relations" and then navigate to either "quarterly results" or "press releases" usually
#Zoom follows the standard tech industry post-#Snowden crisis playbook:
— Cem Paya (@randomoracle) June 3, 2020
1. Acknowledge issue & promise to do better
2. Hype end-to-end mumbo jumbo
3. Deliver weak-sauce feature
4. Hope the sheeple forget ?♂️#privacy #Surveillancehttps://t.co/6GspicPYa4
Zoom CEO confirms video calls by free users will not be encrypted to allow law enforcement easy access - MSPoweruser https://t.co/6tKcWRGpid
— 225 boi (@ya_babydadd) June 3, 2020
Zoom won’t encrypt free calls because it wants to comply with law enforcement (story by @Indianidle) https://t.co/zVxnVCeULq
— TNW (@thenextweb) June 3, 2020
Zoom reported revenue growth of 169% and almost doubled its revenue guidance for the full yearhttps://t.co/RzLQYW3WQX
— Chris Skinner (@Chris_Skinner) June 3, 2020
이제는 전세계인이 쓰는 화상회의 서비스가 됨 줌Zoom의 1분기 실적 공개. 매출은 전년대비 169% 상승한 328M, 10명이상 직원회사 고객수는 26만으로 354% 증가. https://t.co/xDIySkYj7T 올해 매출 예상도 2배로 늘려잡음.
— 에스티마 (@estima7) June 2, 2020
Zoom revenue grew 169% during Q1. https://t.co/WH7ekZxxM8
— Prof Shafi Ahmed PhD FRCS (@ShafiAhmed5) June 2, 2020
【ZOOM決算】
— とうます@米国株/資産運用 (@uskabustock) June 3, 2020
売り上げ成長率は驚異の前年同期比+169%
・EPS 20¢ vs 予想10¢
・売上 3.28億 vs 予想2.04億 +169%
更に通期のガイダンスを市場予想の約2倍までに修正。ガイダンス凄まじいですね。https://t.co/UOvetgAzEt
Zoom reports Q1 revenue of $328.2M up 169% YoY, with 769 customers paying $100K+ in 12 months, up 90% YoY, and 265K customers with 10+ employees, up 354% YoY https://t.co/F3IpzXzbrh
— Brian Solis (@briansolis) June 2, 2020
Zoomの四半期売り上げが昨年対比で169%に。年間売上は200%を超える見通し。
— 柿元崇利 / U-NEXT (@tKackey) June 3, 2020
パンデミック下で利用されまくっているのが、売り上げにも現れているな。https://t.co/L1h6miWbqk
Well, @zoom_us had a blowout quarter. Analysts weren't even close as the company delivered $328 Million vs. $202 Million expected. Hard to imagine they didn't see it coming? Zoom revenue growth rockets in work-from-home age https://t.co/qZikzInUyT #Zoom $ZM #Earnings pic.twitter.com/r0AV8yxoI7
— Daniel Newman (@danielnewmanUV) June 2, 2020
Zoomの利益率高すぎる。「ズームの収益はQ1中に169％成長し、同社は年間の収益予測を倍増させた。Zoomの粗利益率は前四半期の82.7%および前年同期の80.2%から68.4%に低下。トラフィックの拡大によりクラウドへの支出が増大したことが響いた」https://t.co/yai2Hhp4nZ
— Yoshi 吉田拓史 (@taxiyoshida) June 3, 2020
コロナウイルスの影響で苦しんでいる企業が多いけど、Zoomは絶好調みたい。先の四半期の売上が前年度比1.69倍、ウハウハだね(笑)https://t.co/4pIVcuPL1l
— ヤス⚡️エンジニア×MBA受講中 (@earlyfield8612) June 3, 2020
◆"Zoom revenue growth rockets"(CNBC)
— 後藤達也（日経新聞記者） (@goto_nikkei) June 2, 2020
先ほど発表のビデオ会議Zoomの収益は在宅の需要を取り込み、ロケット成長。株価は時間外でも5%高に。年明けから株価は3倍超で、Nasdaq 100銘柄で最も大きい上昇率となっています。
▼CNBCの記事https://t.co/1UNbFLYBLe pic.twitter.com/w2njJ6eLKa
Stock futures rise but coronavirus play Zoom Video falls despite blowout earnings; Tesla, RH lead stocks soaring from very deep bases https://t.co/BRE0UYc9xu $TSLA $ZM $CRWD $AMBA $RH $TTD $CVNA pic.twitter.com/zEKxJU11RB
— Ed Carson (@IBD_ECarson) June 3, 2020
Zoom, 무료 사용자에 엔드-투-엔드 암호화 기능 제공하지 않아 FBI와 경찰이 액세스할 수 있다고 말해
— Wan Ki Choi (@wkchoi) June 3, 2020
- 그러나 비즈니스, 학교, 다른 유료 고객들은 이 기능 제공돼
- CEO 에릭 유안, 폰으로 암호화한 통화 같은 것 할 수 없기 때문에 암호화가 실질적 절충 필요하다고 말해 https://t.co/MdllRlxpjS
Zoom의 CEO가 투자자들과 회합에서 무료 사용자들에게는 종단간 암호화를 제공하지 않겠다고 밝혀. 이유는 “악용하는 사람이 있으니까.” FBI와 경찰 등 사법 당국과 협조를 해야할 필요성이 있다고 주장. 하여간 맥에 백도어 심을때부터 싹수가 노랬어. https://t.co/r7LGTuqy7l
— 푸른곰 (@purengom) June 3, 2020
Zoom says free users won’t get end-to-end encryption so FBI and police can access calls https://t.co/mmHPNCg3za pic.twitter.com/wN77oHkT8m
— The Verge (@verge) June 3, 2020
(1/2) The CEO of video conferencing app #Zoom doesn't want to encrypt your data, thus leaving you vulnerable saying "in case some people use Zoom for a bad purpose." https://t.co/goHDncdAgi
— Sentinel (@Sentinel_co) June 3, 2020
Yep. For anyone wanting a reference for Greer's point:https://t.co/bjh6uowfAw
— Joshua Blanchard (@philoshua) June 3, 2020
Hey Zoom, why are you lying to people? https://t.co/IT0FaAIkwe
— ryan (@ryanwanders) June 3, 2020
줌, 무료 화상 통화는 종단간 암호화 하지 않는군요
— lunamoth (@lunamoth) June 3, 2020
Zoom won't encrypt free calls because it wants to comply with law enforcement https://t.co/EyFr0jwfVF
Folks, this might be low on ppl's radar, but you should rly avoid using Zoom—esp for any organizing. Whereby appears to be a good alternative, though not end-to-end encrypted as far as I can tell.https://t.co/4gRSDTdx1J
— Nicholas O'Brien? (@__nkO) June 3, 2020
2 Remote Code Execution bugs in @zoom_us ? By simple path traversals!https://t.co/ftZaPAsTsa
— Wojciech Reguła (@_r3ggi) June 4, 2020
Two Critical Flaws in Zoom Could've Let Attackers Hack Systems via Chat
— Daniel W. Seiler (@dws_ch) June 4, 2020
https://t.co/Cuam2d3L9d
IMPORTANT — Make sure you are running the latest version of Zoom video conferencing app on your Windows, macOS or #Linux computers.
— Swati Khandelwal (@Swati_THN) June 3, 2020
Two recently patched critical flaws in #Zoom could let attackers hack PCs remotely by sending messages via chat.https://t.co/xuloilaMy9#infosec
IMPORTANT — Make sure you are running the latest version of Zoom video conferencing app on your Windows, macOS or #Linux computers.
— Anonymous??️ ? (@YourAnonRiots) June 3, 2020
Two recently patched critical flaws in #Zoom could let attackers hack PCs remotely by sending messages via chat.https://t.co/dxZvUK5DXo#infosec
Two Critical Flaws in Zoom Could've Let Attackers Hack Systems via Chat https://t.co/Cv8nHPyMKI
— Nicolas Krassas (@Dinosn) June 3, 2020
Zoom: In addition to its many security & privacy issues, there's now a moral & practical dimension to the use of Zoom. Its CEO just said that free calls will not be encrypted because the company “want[s] to work together with FBI”.https://t.co/beAAKxha6m
— James Beacham (@jbbeacham) June 3, 2020
#Zoom security: Here's how #Germany got its wires crossed over video-chat privacy | ZDNet#CyberSecurity #CyberAttack #TechNews #Hacker #cybercrime #HackerNews #Attack #devsecops #Malware #Ransomware #DoS #cryptocurrency #infosec #blockchain https://t.co/RN4SfOJkQG
— Abdullah Alsulami (@abu7ala1) June 4, 2020
Zoom usage peaked at 300 million daily participants in April https://t.co/knHNDwdnkN
— Sandesh Rao (@sandeshr) June 3, 2020
Zoom says free users won’t get end-to-end encryption so FBI and police can access calls https://t.co/Z9W640KT0s pic.twitter.com/htIIGA8eq4
— The Verge (@verge) June 4, 2020
yikes https://t.co/eB0TpzlzQP
— alextbh (@_alextbh) June 4, 2020
大人気のZoom。同社の決算開示で、有料版のユーザにはより高度な暗号化を含むセキュリティアップデートを提供するとした一方、無料版で行われる会話にはセキュリティ機能の追加はないことが明らかに。CEOはそれは意図的なアプローチと認めたという｜https://t.co/xIYBng71zH
— 藤村厚夫 (@afujimura) June 3, 2020
Damn Zoom. Is this really the stand you want to make right now? “Because helping law enforcement?”
— Brian P. Hogan (@bphogan) June 3, 2020
Read the room. Geez.
If you need free encryption there’s always Signal https://t.co/kHmd76u7O8